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    Premier league 2012/2013 thread

    Well, it's up and running.

    Swansea off to a flyer. Everton looking good. Chelsea ominous. Villa getting even worse. Arsenal rebuilding again. United starting with a whimper but they do have RVP (Judas...sorry couldn't help that) Liverpool happy with 5th come season end. So, post your whinges, rants, analysis and predictions here.

    My quickies:

    For the title:

    1. Chelsea
    2. Man City (I called it last season)
    3. Arsenal
    4. Man Utd
    5 Everton
    6. Spurs
    7. Liverpool



    Going down:

    Aston Villa
    Wigan
    Reading


    Arse above Utd you say? Well I'm biased and my judgement can be clouded. However, I really think we can do well this season. Certainly as good as last season. I have a feeling the RVP experiment won't work at Utd. The defence is constantly injured and the midfield is pretty average. I think the top 3 will be far ahead of 4th.

    Villa are so poor it's pretty sad. Can't see them surviving this season. Swansea have started brilliantly but will finish mid-table if they are lucky. Same for Southampton.
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    1-Man U
    2-Man City
    3-Chelsea
    4-Everton
    5-Arsenal
    6-Fulham
    7-Liverpool
    8-Spurs

    Going down, 3 out of Villa, Reading, QPR and Norwich.

    Man United had a worse team last year but still managed to come within a minute of winning the league. Whatever you think of the team on paper, they usually find a way.

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    1- Chelsea (Hazard will be the signing of the season)
    2- Man City
    3- Arsenal
    4- Man U
    5- Everton ( I really do see them having a great season if they are no hit by key injuries)
    6- Liverpool
    7- Swansea ( the surprise of the season with Europa League qualification as a reward)
    8- Newcastle
    Bottom 3: QPR , Wigan, Norwich
    Regarding Spurs not in the top 8, AVB is what we call in France "une chevre", sacking Harry was really an waful decision

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    1. Man U
    2. Chelsea
    3. Man City
    4. Arse
    5. Newcastle
    6. Spurs
    7. Everton
    8. Swansea
    9. Liverpool
    10. Fulham
    ...
    ...
    18. Villa
    19. QPR
    20. Norich

    top scorer: torrez, tevez or RVP (really going out on a limb there, i know)
    manager of the year: di matteo or laudrup

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    laudrup, why not or Moyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil S View Post
    Going down:

    Aston Villa
    Wigan
    Reading
    Villa for sure...but Wigan?? and Reading...on current performance Norwich and QPR would have to be the favourites

    Chelsea and Man City will be up there...probably United and Arsenal...I think the top four might end up closer than last year...but if you add the way Chelsea have started to the way they finished last year...plus their aggressive attitude...they are setting the pace

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwiling View Post
    Villa for sure...but Wigan?? and Reading...on current performance Norwich and QPR would have to be the favourites
    Wigan are again selling their best players. Something's got to give. They just managed it last year but the sales of Roddellega and Victor Moses will crush them this time around. Martinez is a brilliant young manager, but he can't work miracles. Reading? Good start but their squad looks really weak. Not sure how they'll react to a 6-0 thumping which could be coming anytime.

    Norwich and QPR? Well, they look poor at the moment but Norwich play a decent brand of football and they have kept most of their squad together. That should be enough over a long season. QPR have so many new players that they haven't gelled yet. They will. Their squad looks far too strong to go down and they are looking to spend even more before the window closes. They will be fine imo.




    Quote Originally Posted by crew View Post
    top scorer: torrez, tevez or RVP (really going out on a limb there, i know)
    If Torres stays fit he'll do it imo. Looking like the old Torres is back. Heard a few pundits saying that Drogba just totally 'alpha maled' him. Torres needs to feel top dog by the manager and his peers. Could be some truth in that. He was brilliant for Spain until David Villa got on the scene. Villa then got injured for Euro 2012 and Torres looked sharp again.

    For 50 million it's a shame he's such a pussy. If the opinions are true (and I think there may be some truth in them).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil S View Post
    Looking like the old Torres is back.
    With Hazard feeding him he could have a cracker
    Quote Originally Posted by Neil S View Post
    For 50 million it's a shame he's such a pussy.
    Interesting

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    Lloris to Spurs, really good signing I think then you add Dempsey and Dembele, They might make me change my predictions.

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    bear in mind though that Spurs lost Modric and van der Vaart. i'd say they improved at GK but didn't improve their attack significantly. i expect them to finish similarly.

    assuming injuries even out:

    1. Chelsea, once their back line settles.
    2. City, that Nastasic looks promising, and Javi Garcia is an upgrade over the departed de Jong (why do Ajax players always end up in Milan?? why??? WHY???)
    3. United. let's see. central midfield was THE problem last year... so who do you sign? a sicknote forward. good call, Fergie. they'll be about as good as they were last year, though. problem is City got a little better and Chelsea got a LOT better (and start the season with a manager who's a good fit, which is a major upgrade over last season).
    4. Spurs. i think it'll be close but they'll finish ahead of Arsenal
    5. Arsenal. some interesting buys but team will take time to gel, and odds are whoever's playing well for them will be sold to City in the winter window.
    6. i'd love to see Swansea etc work their way up to this spot but i think once they settle in and play Rodgers' way, Liverpool will be pretty good.
    7. Swansea. i think they really are that good.
    8. Everton. they could go higher. Moyes looks like Gollum but manages like Gandalf. 6,7,8 may not necessarily be in that order but i think it will be these teams.

    all i've got time for right now, not going to think about who'll get the drop just yet. too depressing.
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    I see everybody is noting just how good Chelsea look...so in that regard I will not stress myself by arguing over who might finish second...because although SAF got rid of Berbatov...and I do rate RVP a lot better...he hasn't signed a Hazard...here's hoping Kagawa can do the trick...also I agree with your sentiments about Everton...but not Spurs...why buy a losing manager?. I cannot understand why some team hasn't made David Moyes an offer he can't refuse...his performance in keeping tha club afloat cannot be questioned

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwiling View Post
    .his performance in keeping tha club afloat cannot be questioned
    True. Still think Wenger is a total genius, I believe his spending is restrained due to the club wanting to pay off the stadium asap. This season spent 39million...sold 44 million. To keep getting top 4 in a very competitive league spending little to nothing, is absolute genius.

    I can't think of another manager in the world who could do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil S View Post
    Still think Wenger is a total genius
    High praise...arguable though
    Quote Originally Posted by Neil S View Post
    I believe his spending is restrained due to the club wanting to pay off the stadium asap
    That is true...and is to his and the club's credit...sucking up to psycho Russians, big dick Arabs and dealing with whatever one can call the Glazers is far less impressive...the Villa and Liverpool management seem to be following that lead...but I can't recall Arsene doing a deal like Liverpool did for Andy Carroll

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    maybe it's due to the fact that Arsene has a degree in business so he may have an acute sense of doing good business

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    ^I always figured his genius was due to him being French.

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