Classic-Chassis

what is the title of the course and what the title of the cert? Diploma in Teaching Business English?
no one would care IMO, it's experience that counts in that field. for example how can you possibly teach English for presentations if you've never given presentations or English for negotiations if you've no experience.
there are a lot of English courses dressed up as business course but at the end of the day all they are is general conversation based on business topics.

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Cyrille

Fact is though that expert presenters, negotiators, lawyers etc. don't become TEFLers. The op has to start somewhere, so why dismiss this course out of hand?

In truth, swedster, if you have viable TEFL quals already you won't usually struggle to find work in Thailand and probably wouldn't need this course.

If you don't, and you are particularly interested in this area, then this course could give you an edge at an interview. If nothing else, doing the course might suggest to an interviewer that you care about the quality of your teaching.

The best way to find out specific info is to contact them, I'd say.

kenkannif

Actually Cyrille....yes a lot of them do mate to be fair.

Although I'd agree with your comment in regards to TEFL....if they have a good cert it should have been covered...or at least the bare basics should have.

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Cyrille

Hmm, what do you base that on? Their word? Sorry, I'm not convinced.

kenkannif

No their quals and references etc. mate. LoL elsewise there'd be tons of SAS operatives as well. I'm actually quite shocked by the high quality of people over here. I think people have it in their mind that most of them are factory workers, postmen, menial workers etc. Actually if you look at the thread 'what did you do in farangland' you'll see a lot of them there as well (although you could say they're fibbing as well but I personally don't think so).

No worries....wasn't trying to convince you...just posting my experiences is all!

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Desertexile

You'd teach the language of negotiations, not how to negotiate etc. Who would teach medicl English or English for law? Lawyers? Doctors?

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^Exactly. I've taught all sorts of ESP courses (from medicine to banking) without an iota of experience in those fields. It's the language involved, not the particular professional skills, that is needed. I would expect students in my business negotiations class to be business negotiators who need English.

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ScorpioPower

Experience can help sometimes though, although I've yet to see it properly valued in T'land.

I was in senior management in the ad industry back home, and got a biz eng teaching contract in Nam specifically because of my background.

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kenkannif

A bit of both helps really!

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Desertexile

So you could teach an advertiising course, any language specialist could teach the language of advertsising.

I'm sure I could teach legal terms, wouldn't want to stand up and defend John Carr, mind.

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Classic-Chassis

sorry all! my use of experience has been misunderstood, i mean experience in teaching english mainly because as i said, most business courses are just english courses based on business topics.

there are lots of teachers in LOS who come from profesional backgrounds. lawyers, medical..etc..etc.
some companies want specific skills based training now. that is a different ball game.
most of the student have studied abroad and use english for their work here.
they make presentations, have negotiations and use a lot of written communication. in this case it would help if the teacher is familiar with the skills, no? it also helps if the teacher comes from a background that is similar to the company.
if any of you were employing a teacher for business english and you were presented with the choice of 5 years teaching at all levels or an ECC business english teacher cert, which would you choose. don't bother answering because i know your answers already, hence i think it would be a waste of time and money if you're going to flash it at potential employers. As KK said a good tefl course should have covered this area already.
if you're doing it to get a taste of teaching, do a course that is recognised.

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ScorpioPower

Disagree, sorry.

It's not about simply reading industry-related terms from the latest textbook. That's just content.

What experience brings is context.

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Classic-Chassis

i agree, if a business course is in a specific field(not just conversation based on business topics).

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But an English for Business course is just that - not a business course
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I've got EFLers teaching English for Health and Saftey, Industrial Information, interpersonal skills, accountants, secretaries, lawyers, nurses HR etc etc etc.

Then I also have field related experts teaching the above courses etc once the trainees have the language to study within that field.

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