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    Teacher Salaries

    Bangkok colleges, universities and private schools will not disclose teacher’s salaries. And surprisingly, teachers themselves also seem to think it’s in their benefit to keep their salaries secrete. Consequently, teaching salaries are effectively demoted to the level of street hawker bargaining. This serves neither the teacher nor the students. A higher paid teacher can spend more time on his students and less time looking for or earning supplementary income. Someone once said information is power. In California and other places in the world teacher salaries are freely available. http://www.nea.org/neatodayextra/salaries.html

    http://resource.educationamerica.net/salaries.html

    http://www.ed-data.k12.ca.us/Articles/Article.asp?title=Teachers+in+California

    As long as teachers remain divided and parents remain ambivalent the institutions will continue to pay the lowest possible salaries, teacher’s rights will continue to be violated and caring parents will have to send their kids abroad or for a decent education.

    The first step is the dissemination of information. Inform the public and your peers.

    If you are currently employed please post your salary, your background and the type or institution you work for: Private College, Government College, Private University or Language Center. In addition, list any and all benefits you receive.

    And most of all keep this post honest, current and open.

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    Re: Teacher Salaries

    I work at a Rajabhat. No secret.

    19k gross, 17k net + 8k housing allowance = 25k net.

    Doing 4 hrs/wk for ECC @ 300 per, so that's perhaps another 5k/month.


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    Re: Teacher Salaries

    ^same as above at a gov't uni, but add 8,000 as a kicker 'cause i'm educated.
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    Re: Teacher Salaries

    35,000 out in the countryside. My salary is only a secret from the 30,000 baht newbie plebs.

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    Re: Teacher Salaries

    Something is SERIOUSLY wrong here! With the new visa concerns, many people are taking issue with the fact that they now need to deposit 64,000 baht per month in a bank account. With most of them, they say this isn't a problem, but an inconvenience. I realize this is for a work visa, that is not my point. As teachers, we can only dream about making this much, for them this is extra to be deposited at the end of the month.

    Something needs to be done, the question is .....what?!? We are not simply working, we are educating these citizens to help develop and improve this country! A service that only a limited number of nations can supply. Most of us are dedicated and work hard at providing this service. I, for one, still love thailand and I don't want to leave. Yes, it would be very simple to get a much higher paying job in another country, I've turned down offers of over 2000 US per month, with housing, a few weeks ago. But seriously, what can be done about the fact that teachers are getting screwed so badly?!?!?!

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    Why compare Thailand to the USA? It's useless. Thailand is about as far as you can get from America unless you go to the Moon. Maybe you need to read more or live more, smalldog. They'll do whatever they can get away with. And any Westerner who deals with Thais will turn a blind eye cause he's been here too long and has gone native from all the trials of trying to scratch out a living, IMO.

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    Private schools pay higher for real teachers (as in those with QTS qualified tecaher status) in Bangkok BUT unis seem to pay "peanuts" (not enough for Bangkok IMHO). I get more as a kinder teacher than any uni can pay (I have a PhD) and the wife as a QTS gets far more than me teaching primary.

    What really make me laugh is when my 3 year olds gather round the "slow student" slag off the poor kids coloring skills then one just said "never mind" (in Thai) and they all smile and wonder off. Even at that age they are learning to "save face" and not bother about the quality of their work. No wonder uni students are so f...... up and salaries are low as who cares about quality
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    What on earth are you teachers going to do if you plan to stay on here? I think that salaries have become a serious problem for most westerners over here - not only for teachers. The thai employers simply do not want to pay a fair wage. They scimp & scrape to the lowest possible wage - they are not good about benefits and annual raises unless pressed. I believe that their ethics are a genuine problem. I have been with the same employer for 2.5 years now. It is simply not fair.

    I have no idea of other countries in Asia. I hope you guys get yourselves sorted out.

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    Re: Teacher Salaries

    Quote Originally Posted by watterinja
    What on earth are you teachers going to do if you plan to stay on here? I think that salaries have become a serious problem for most westerners over here - not only for teachers. The thai employers simply do not want to pay a fair wage. They scimp & scrape to the lowest possible wage - they are not good about benefits and annual raises unless pressed. I believe that their ethics are a genuine problem. I have been with the same employer for 2.5 years now. It is simply not fair.

    I have no idea of other countries in Asia. I hope you guys get yourselves sorted out.
    Well I suspect that teaching in Thailand is only really viable for "2nd careers" especially for those with substantial assets in a pension and a house that are looking for a way out of the rat race and just want beer and whoring money.....

    Another possibillity is couples (as I am) where we can save one salary but still its not as good money as other countries. But money isnt everything BUT I do worry about money (as a certain ex stole 200k USD from me a few years ago) for retirement.

    What really sucks also is Thialand has the stupidest immi laws
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    Re: Teacher Salaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo.
    Well I suspect that teaching in Thailand is only really viable for "2nd careers" especially for those with substantial assets in a pension and a house that are looking for a way out of the rat race and just want beer and whoring money.....

    What really sucks also is Thialand has the stupidest immi laws
    It is starting to look that way.

    The immi laws are becoming nonsensical - no-one genuinely knows what to believe any more - the stories change by the day. It has been this way for the past few years that I can remember and is getting worse. I'm not happy with the way things are moving, to be honest.

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    Re: Teacher Salaries

    Quote Originally Posted by ssparks111
    With the new visa concerns, many people are taking issue with the fact that they now need to deposit 64,000 baht per month in a bank account.
    What's this about? Something I should know?


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    Re: Teacher Salaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Asper
    What's this about? Something I should know?
    Agreed.

    I have not a clue.

    Does anyone?

    Edit: Ah, I think he may be referring to the amount of cash that needs to be deposited for a so-called Retirement Visa??????? Just a guess.
    Last edited by soijetcornergirl; 4th October 2006 at 05:39.

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    Re: Teacher Salaries

    I thought you knew everything about visa rules.

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    Re: Teacher Salaries

    [quote=natalie8]I thought you knew everything about visa rules. [/quote

    No.

    You're wrong.

    Try again.

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    Re: Teacher Salaries

    Quote Originally Posted by natalie8
    I thought you knew everything about visa rules.
    No.
    You're wrong.
    Try again.
    You dunno much about how to use the quote function though.

    As to salary, 27,500 for 5 days with a large language and computer school, + 6,000 for 6 hours over time a week + a little bit of private work. Barely liveable.

    Luckily, I get a small amount of money from the UK each month which pays for the regular ...

    Teachers salaries should be WAY higher, but the Thai mentality is to screw anyone considered to be 'under' the employer, so it will likely never happen, even if a shortage of teachers occurs due to world perception of Thailand and impossible Immi regs.
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