So if they don't speak english fluently, they why employ them if they are no better than Thai teachers?Originally Posted by Covertjay
Because it's possible to speak English waay better than most Thai teachers and still not speak fluently.Originally Posted by Just Another BOF
Though I would have thought filipino teachers hired would be fluent. There's a difference between being fluent and native speaker fluency.
The difficulty is how well would a thai hiring them be able to judge?
In the vast majority of schools it doesn't make any difference who teaches thais English if the school doesn't test speaking. as long as ridiculous boring textbook teaching or irrelevant grammar rules is continued you might as well have Mickey Mouse teaching. Throwing in cheating and no one fails into the mix do we make that much difference at all. Clearly in the better schools where children having a good basis in reading and speaking, it does make a difference having a native speaking but elsewhere it seems many schools just don't give a shit.
^ Completely agree.
So no one cares about the evils of rote learning vs child centered learning??
I don't want my old students that have developed so much to go on to a 'talk and chalk' parrot type teacher.
"Ka warea te ware. Ka area te Rangatira."
There is something that everyone should know about Filipino teachers here in Thailand. Most of the Filipinos who are here are not the best English speakers… what I mean is that the best English speakers in my country are employed in other organizations that pays them well (ex. media, call centers, good universities or somewhere working in another English speaking country). Some have that strong accent which is difficult to get rid-off and that is something that is also not acceptable in our local schools.
They come here for better opportunities, the kind of opportunity that they can’t get back home. Some come here in different circumstances. Some still come here even there is much uncertainty of what lays ahead for them. Fresh graduates, mothers, daughters, sons from poor family, who intends to work hard and send money back to their families.
Some of you may grumble about the quality of Filipino English teachers and these are the reasons why they are like that. But in total fairness, we do try hard to be better in what we do because we know that we will always be second best to the native speakers of English.
Never raise your hand on a student... it leaves your groin unprotected!
^ Some Flipino/as think that....some don't mate.
Maybe speak for yourself and not a whole race of people....as we Brits do
Riddle me this brother can you handle it
Your style to my style you can't hold a candle to it
Equinox symmetry and the balance is right
Smokin' and drinkin' on a Tuesday night
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I cheat and steal and sin and I'm a cynic
I think KenKannif is pointing to this statement. I would agree that it assumes too much.Originally Posted by Slurpyjoe
Miles and miles to go before I sleep...
ok, I rephrase that...Originally Posted by kenkannif
I believe that it also depends on your own personal background.
There are good Filipino teachers, good Farang teachers, bad Filipino teacher and bad Farang teachers! (to point out the obvious)
The one big difference between us is that Farangs are mostly here because we want to live in Thailand. Filipinos are here for the money.
Munted: You are spot on. Recto Avenue is the place to buy a degree in Manila. I do know of more than a few Filipino teachers here in Thailand with Recto University degrees. They make degrees for the legions of filipino heading aboard. FYI the Masters degree professional you think you are working with may be a a 1st year university drop out, a masters degree professional teacher has more opportunities in other countries that pay a lot more than Thailand.
Don't know what you mean by Songkhla, LDMA but the province of Songkhla has well over a hundred Filipino teachers.
About Filipino teachers, some are good, some are bad. I'm proud of my wife. She has a good accent and she puts in time trying to improve her speaking, She was the first Filipino ever hired by the school and will likely be the last. Why? Too many bad ones out there. Two filipinos with not so good English visited the school wanting a job. The school said nope, we don't hire filipinos. The filipinos then mentioned that they knew that a filipina was working at the school, called the Thai staff liars and then demanded a job. Guess how far that got them?
Zero? The powers that be, the MOE, will accept Masters' from Phillipines because if they don't it effects the transferability of their own degrees. So, thanks for that tip. That's another avenue to explore.Originally Posted by Whitey
^ Another 'avenue to explore'? Your A-Z must make depressing reading.
It's about time you got back from the pisser, Cyrille. Is that the piss talking, or you?Originally Posted by Cyrille