Thread: Arbitration

Originally Posted by re_fuse

Brilliant Mr Bill

Xie Xie!

Originally Posted by esljudge2

The case of the teacher will be provided by Email/skype. Then the school will have an opportunity to reply. The teacher can rebut, then so can the school. Eventually the three arbitrators will come to a decision.

So, the teacher can lie, the school can lie and none of the arbitrators will know the difference. Without a representative on the ground and capable of investigating the claims of either party further how can an arbitration be reached?

It's a nice idea but I don't see the practical benefit to either party in the process at the moment.

Now, if the site was the number one hit for search engines when searching for the schools name, then they may be concerned by it.

Also if the owners of the site had a direct link to the MoE or the police and courts then it might make a difference.

Haven't read the entire thread, just the beginning and ending.

It seems to me though, that what the OP is suggesting basically already exists, to a large extent anyway, in organization such as TEFL Watch.

There is no central governing body or recognized standards in the TEFL industry (and for very good reasons).

So trying to codify some kind of systems that relies on the the parties and a third (arbitrator) just ain't going to work.

I think TEFL Watch is potentially just fine. School fucks up and refuses to respond or rectify then they get hit with a blacklisting, which gets spread far and wide.

The onus is kinda on the school to maintain good business practice because even the "rumour' of malpractice on a well read site, can bring the wrath of god down on any school, training program ,etc.

I'd say, bad idea. Not worth the effort.

My advice to the 2 esljudges

dun hold ur breath

I think a website without a forum is the only hope of reconciling both sides in a potential argument between school and teacher. Still I have reservations though, even when neither side is lying in such a dispute it is still often the case that they will have a very different perception of the truth as well as a very different perception of what is an appropriate compromise

Note from Phil

Defender,
I edited this post and deleted a few others (from other people) so we stay on the topic of the original post.

Well, since Phil has already issued a warning that this thread may find it's way to the bin in short order, let me just try a quick response.

This is the second time you've quoted that post Bruce. I didn't respond to your fist posting.

Now you're here again telling me I'm dead wrong, once again.

Now, please tell me what I am dead wrong about Bruce.

I haven't personally attached you on the thread. I've made some comments with regard to the OP's suggestions, which you've now quoted twice. Why the need for that?

I stand by what I said. If a school or training facility is guilty of poor practice then it is entirely fai that an organization such as TEFL Watch, should (hoipefully in a professional manner) investigate the claims and if there is any substance to the claims then they have the moral obligation to get this message out to their readership.

You're concern seems to be that they are spreading lies and not taking an even handed approach to the situation.

Schools and training facilities can also make claims that amount to outright lies.

So what's wrong with exposing these people when there seems to be enough evidence to support doing so.

I don't really support this new proposed organization because I tend to favour more of a free enterprise system.
Do a good job and word is going to get out. Do a poor job, then word will also get out.

Let's leave it up to the reader (consumer) to decide who is more believable and who is less believable.

A good start is in trying to keep the level of discussion professional.

So sorry Bruce. I am not dead At least not yet) and your claim that I am dead wrong is simply your opinion.

Sometimes I think you may take things a little to personally. Being open to criticism comes with the territory.

So, bottom line Bruce is that I don't really understand you posting this statement again to tell me that I am dead wrong.

Forget it. Take five.

Just so I know I haven't completely lost my mind, somebody please tell me that this thread has endured some extensive pruning overnight ?

If that is the case(not the mind business, but the pruning stuff) who might have engaged in such activity?

Or am I confusing two threads.

Confused at this point.