I have done a TEFL International. I don't think it is any lesser than a CELTA...but somebody can tell me it is and why. Torbek mentioned uni credits in Oz and that is a fair comment...but I don't know how much of an advantage that would be in the long run.Originally Posted by Cyrille
I cannot count off the top of my head how many intensive short courses I have done with people who know their stuff. They were with very reputable outfits including one in Europe. They are on my CV, but not on my Resume. I don't tell people I have done them...they can read about them in my CV. That is the "bragging rights" I talk about. The only thing I tell them is my registration as a teacher...that is a bragging right in this context.
I have an excellent record with the standard of person I have recruited and am very proud of that. There was a succession of undesirable people employed before I took over. That was not the fault of the previous farang...the Thai management disregarded his advice...I learned from his experience to be more blunt about who I think is good or bad.Originally Posted by Cyrille
Qualifications on a piece of paper are only part of the deal...and one always has to allow for fakes.
However what cannot be denied is work a teacher has done before. In our training we were taught to keep examples of our work to show prospective employers. Recent examples of lesson plans and teaching strategies count for a whole lot. People who bring them to an interview show much about their teaching ability. You are not paying a person for what her or she looks like...you are paying for what they can do.
I have ignored people who had degrees I thought were fake...but were in fact genuine...why?...because their attitude was bad...just like I would expect from a fake...and also their work record was shite...continual job turnover.
I have never checked on the degrees of people I have employed...never. So they might be fake...I don't know...I employed them for the personal qualities I saw. Also I recall speaking to another poster here who told me of a person he knew who was a Khao San Road alumni. This guy never guessed and he had been working in Thailand for years.
I have a Thai girlfriend...so have no prejudices there... but yes anybody with an address in Pattaya I have doubts about straight away...how is that for prejudice?Originally Posted by Cyrille
It tells the employer something about the person...that is all. There were people on my TEFL course I wouldn't employ at all...degree or no degree. The value of the course is more personal than public...and that is why TEFL International make their students prepare a portfolio...Dave was very clear about that being the true qualification of the course.Originally Posted by Cyrille
Good question. There was a guy who applied for a job with a diploma mill qualification. He was a genuinely nice guy. He was not deceitful. He was not a sexpat. He had a longstanding relationship with a Thai career woman, who wanted to stay here. He had no experience with teaching but had a history of honest jobs in the his home country. I think the management were prepared to turn a blind eye to things. I said no. To throw somebody like that into secondary teaching with large class sizes was too much of a risk I thought. I felt the workload would get to him and it would come back on us. I could have taken a risk and given him a go. Now just assume some other school took a risk and it worked out, and he came back after 5 years teaching and we were desperate...what would you do?Originally Posted by Cyrille
They call that the paradigm shift.
No...but having a Masters or Phd from some second rate outfit or a Diploma Mill would.Originally Posted by phuketbound
WTF!!!...a PGCE is a genuine bragging right qualification.Originally Posted by Cyrille