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    Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

    If you had an opportunity to ask Dr. Chakrapat, Secretary General of the TCT one question...what would it be?


    My first questions would be are: What is the relationship between the Ministry of Education and the Teachers Council of Thailand regarding teachers licenses?

    Number 2: How are the associated parties (the MoE and TCT) currently issuing teachers licenses?

    3. What is the planned progression of implementation of the new requirements for teachers licenses?

    4. How is the TCT going to verify and certify degrees and other teaching certifications that are obtained outside Thailand?

    5. Is the TCT going to require a police check prior to a teacher applying for certification?

    6. Should schools be expected to pay more for a teacher with a TL from the TCT? Why, Why not?

    7. How is a private agency (according to the organisational chart on the Moe website) going to provide a level playing field for all teachers.

    8. Many of the teachers here in Thailand have been here for several years and cannot understand why they should take a test in Thai culture. At what point does the TCT agree that years of experience should exclude them from the culture test?


    These are just some starter questions....pony on up to the bar!

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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

    I would ask the following: "Who the fuck died and made you (TCT) god of education, when it's obvious you don't know enough to have a successful wet dream?" OK, seriously, I would ask why I am qualified to teach in a nation with over 300 million people, but a third world shithole thinks I am not? I want to know why!
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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

    That's worth a green!
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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Topper
    How is the TCT going to verify and certify degrees and other teaching certifications that are obtained outside Thailand?
    IMO it's the employer's responsibility, in this case schools.

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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

    Oh well...it seems none you have the balls to either ask decent questions or run with the ball yourself.

    At what point are you posers and whiners and at what point do you actually want to know what the heck is going on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wangsuda
    OK, seriously, I would ask why I am qualified to teach in a nation with over 300 million people, but a third world shithole thinks I am not? I want to know why!
    Fair question....even more that you're one of the more respected teachers here Wang.

    How about... Many teachers have degrees and certifications that let them teach in any country in the world. Countries such as Japan, Korea and even Laos (joke) Taiwan actively seek these teachers. Why should they be required to take the same tests that a new teacher with a new degree and no "in country" experience?
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    Oh, and thanks for all the input for questions. I appreciate all your thoughts! Both of them!
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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Topper
    Oh well...it seems none you have the balls to either ask decent questions or run with the ball yourself.
    What's the point of asking here?

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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

    ^ as this is a Thai focused forum with most of the members working as teachers, I thought it might be a good idea to get some ideas on what questions the members are interested in.
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    How about this....I'll ask the questions and when you don't get the answers you were looking for you can bitch at me for not listening to what questions you asking.

    Fooking bunch of posers .... bitch about the system but have a chance to get some input from the system you run away. What does this say about the teachers in Thailand?

    One question from several posters...one related to teachers licenses...just one from each of you..asked in a semi respectful way. Can we do it or not?
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    And for my last rant of the evening...all I did is take Russell Simpons idea to get an interview...I looked up the moe site on google and found a phone number. used that phone number and got yet another phone number..the last one being to the top dog.

    Why haven't anyone actually going thru this BS done this same thing? To scared...to stupid...or just too lazy. It took me an hour to get an interview with the guy in charge...why haven't any of you posers made the same effort.

    My personal guess is that its easy to bitch on a forum rather than actually make an effort yourself. Its easier to express your opinions rather that getting to the bottom of the issue. How many of you have called the TCT asking for clarification of the requirements? How many of you have asked the management at TCT their opinions of what the new requirements will cost to implement?

    I'm pretty much disappointed in this "teachers community". I would have hoped for better.
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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

    One question. Here goes.

    What mechanisms are in place to provide for input from the most affected parties and related, what elements of transparency are built into implementation of the new regulations?

    Let them chew on that for awhile.
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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson
    What mechanisms are in place to provide for input from the most affected parties and related, what elements of transparency are built into implementation of the new regulations?
    Not only them. Me too.

    I would like to ask the Sec Gen of TCT:

    In each of us there are three personalities:
    1: What you think of yourself!
    2: What people think of you!
    3: What you really are!

    These are not my inventions. They were invented a long time ago. To make it applicable and valid to education in Thailand, I would like to ask:

    1: Do you really think you're then best in SEA?
    2: Do you really think that flanked support of the USA would make you the educational hub of SEA?
    3: Did you really forget you're Thailand?

    So, dear Sec Gen of TCT, considering the things previously written, I'd like to ask you:"in education, what are the foreign teachers"? "Tools or milk-cows"?

    For what I see now is that we are milk-cows. No problem with that but you should have told us that before.

    It would have made the subject science so easy. "In Thailand there are only two liquids, diesel and water"!

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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Topper
    Fooking bunch of posers .... bitch about the system but have a chance to get some input from the system you run away. What does this say about the teachers in Thailand? ... And for my last rant of the evening...all I did is take Russell Simpons idea to get an interview...I looked up the moe site on google and found a phone number. used that phone number and got yet another phone number..the last one being to the top dog.
    Fuck you, you sanctimonious prick.
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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba
    Fuck you, you sanctimonious prick.
    No thanks Bubba...I'm straight...but I do appreciate the thought behind the offer...or was that the offer of my behind...so confusing for me.

    Oh, Bubba, what bave you done to find out whats going on? Yes I might be a prick, but at least I've got the balls to pick up the phone and ask questions. And you've done.....oh, thats right...nothing but bitch. At least I'm a prick that has a pair hanging beneath them.

    Again...what have you done to get to the bottom of this issue? That would be nothing.

    But thats just my opinion, I might be wrong, but I doubt it. So when you're willing to actually offer some advice or assistance, I'll be willing to listen.
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    Thanks for the input...I'm going to ask about transparency from the stand point that every school (i.e. the international schools) should be expected to use this certification as proof the teacher is qualified for teaching in Thailand. I think a question along those lines is important to establish the relancy of the TCT license.
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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

    My serious question would be thus:

    If you want serious, qualified teachers from the West, why are you unwilling to pay those teachers a serious salary?

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    Re: Ask the Sec Gen of TCT one question-what would it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Topper
    Again...what have you done to get to the bottom of this issue? That would be nothing.
    You're right, I haven't done anything to get to the bottom of this 'issue', largely because I don't need to. My quals are all legit, notarised and apostilled, I have a recent background check and I don't need to do the Thai Culture course and I have a Non-imm B visa, plus WP plus Teacher's license and I've never had a problem getting any of these things.

    If I did have a problem with any of these things and I had been lucky enough to score an interview with Dr. whateverhisnameis, I certainly wouldn't drop my mild-mannered online persona, start beating my chest, telling everybody what a fucking dynamic man of action I was, and calling everyone else a
    Quote Originally Posted by Topper
    Fooking bunch of posers
    .

    Because that would make me look like a bit of a wanker.
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