assistance in processing your teacher licenses

**tayto** · 11th July 2008 20:58

I have just got this e-mail from a Flipino teacher that I know. He used to work in Chiang Rai and seems to have some sort of a job as a Training Co- ordinator.
This guy is useless as a teacher and is now a training co-ordinator???????????
Is this letter a scam or what?

abel cadias <augt25@yahoo.com> to taweeporn, tedtanda, tempo22ph, Terecita, tess, thanapong, thelspil2000, Thessalone, tita, toey_oat, tongtawesa, me, travis, usira_anoma, usira_anoma, vannessa, vhic_cp, Virgilio, visa, visathai, w.charoenchai, withmasako, witsarut, woody, woram86, Wwongthum
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12:29 (8 hours ago)

Dear Teachers,

We are now ready to assist you in processing your application form to secure your teacher license at the Teachers Council of Thailand. Follow the procedures below:

1. Download the application form. Fill it up and attached the required documents found in the form. Do not forget to photocopy your TRAINING CERTIFICATE on Thai Culture ( attach the original copy as well).

2. Sign all photocopied documents.

3. Pay the APPLICATION FEE (500.00 Baht) for the Teachers' Council of Thailand and the PROCESSING FEE (500.00 Baht) for our office amounting to 1,000.00 Baht. Deposit or transfer the said amount to:

Montika Thepkanjana
KTB - 197-1-00-231-3

3. Mail the documents (including the payment slip) to:

Montika Thepkanjana
4/516 Sahakorn Village Soi 21, Serithai Rd. (Soi 57), Klong Kum, Bangkok 10240 Thailand

4. The Teachers' Council of Thailand shall send you through mail a LETTER that you can bring later to the Immigration office. Your original TRAINING CERTIFICATE shall be mailed as well back to you.
Abel Cadias
PSTAT/STKC
Training Coordinator
0867090873

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**wanghunghigh** · 11th July 2008 22:27

Originally Posted by tayto

This guy is useless as a teacher and is now a training co-ordinator?

Hey! Welcome to LOS... that's how it works here.

Originally Posted by tayto

Is this letter a scam or what?

Err... of course. Playing on people's fears. Best way to make money... ask the TCT.

Originally Posted by tayto

Mail the documents (including the payment slip) to:

Mail a fat, juicy, turd there instead. Or bombard that telephone number from a local callbox at 3 in the morning after a good night out on the town. The choice is yours.

**Killing Me Softly 101** · 12th July 2008 02:45

Not very much money for a scammer. Barely pocket change. Think Nigeria Scam. Maybe this is the cheaper Asian version. LOL
But if you are not his employee, I would guess it to be a scam.

**happys mate** · 12th July 2008 11:35

Do it yourself at TCT BKK Good helpful lady in charge of falangs applications

**russellsimpson** · 12th July 2008 12:05

I'd say that if you're outside Bangkok, this probably isn't a bad idea.

I get the definite impression that some Filipino teachers have themselves "installed" in the Thai Private teacher's Association (who are very close to the TTC it seems). So they probably can , in fact, facilitate matter, so to speak.

This doesn't ring pf a scam to me.

Ah yes I know that Abel guy. Straight up guy. Not a scam.

He make a few bucks, but what the hell.

**wanghunghigh** · 12th July 2008 12:31

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

Ah yes I know that Abel guy.

This is the same Abel Cadias who is listed to "teach" us thicko farangs the Thai language (well, alphabet) at the upcoming "Culture" course. He is clearly very well connected to the TCT. Maybe not a scam, then, but he is clearly a money-grubbing collaborator.

I for one am not gonna sit around on a Saturday evening listening to a non-native teacher bang on to me about the Thai language, and nor are a couple of other lads who are already much more fluent in Thai than me. We've paid our money, we want our cheap, nasty, tacky, worthless certificates.

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

I get the definite impression that some Filipino teachers have themselves "installed" in the Thai Private teacher's Association

If this has any basis in truth then the reasons behind TCT tests (5% pass rate?) and the course (horseshit) are becoming clearer by the day... get those overpaid whiteys out and fill the classrooms with Filipino teachers (who may have a teaching degree but, come on, to what standard?) who will most definately work for peanuts. Is the standard of Filipino education that high? Is that why their country continues to implode? Is that what Thailand aspires to? Watch your backs, boys, and good luck Thailand.

**russellsimpson** · 12th July 2008 12:37

This is the same Abel Cadias who is listed to "teach" us thicko farangs the Thai language (well, alphabet) at the upcoming "Culture" course.

Decent enough guy but I doubt if he's actually teaching the language component. Check you flyer, maybe he's doing the introduction? No?

**wanghunghigh** · 12th July 2008 12:58

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

Decent enough guy

Decent enough to collaborate with the bouffant-hair brigade, sure. I'll hold my final judgement until i've met him.

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

Check you flyer, maybe he's doing the introduction?

Having read a previous piece where somebody made mention of sitting through several tedius hours of a non-native instructor teaching Thai language i've put two and two together and maybe come up with the same answer as a few of our M4's... 22.

Let's hope he's only doing an intro, then. The timetable our boss gave us is in the bin at school and I think the boss-eyed janitor

might well have recycled it by now.

**Loner** · 13th July 2008 23:14

Originally Posted by wanghunghigh

Is the standard of Filipino education that high? Is that why their country continues to implode? Is that what Thailand aspires to? Watch your backs, boys, and good luck Thailand.

According the the TIMSS reports, Philipino students score consistently among the lowest 5 countries in the world in science and mathematics. Perhaps, then, the savings they make employing their teachers is a false economy. They'd be much better off with good Thai teachers...

**russellsimpson** · 14th July 2008 12:37

Decent enough to collaborate with the bouffant-hair brigade, sure. I'll hold my final judgement until i've met him.

Like I said, it's unlikely he's the presenter.

In my mind there is probably a possible conflict of interest case involved where somebody who is sitting on the board of an agency who are contracted to teach the course, is also offering to process the applications.

Being Thailand though, this is probably very small potatoes.

**wanghunghigh** · 14th July 2008 22:03

Originally Posted by Loner

According the the TIMSS reports, Philipino students score consistently among the lowest 5 countries in the world in science and mathematics. Perhaps, then, the savings they make employing their teachers is a false economy. They'd be much better off with good Thai teachers...

Hahahaha! Will serve 'em right if that's the road they choose to take.

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

Like I said, it's unlikely he's the presenter.

Ok, bud. I'm with you.

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

In my mind there is probably a possible conflict of interest case involved where somebody who is sitting on the board of an agency who are contracted to teach the course, is also offering to process the applications.

"Conflict of interest"... i'll have to ask my (smart) M6's if there's such a concept in Thailand.

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

this is probably very small potatoes.

I could buy a serious amount of potatoes with B3,500... and to an Irishman, that's no small matter indeed.

**Xtrafresh** · 25th July 2008 20:29

Originally Posted by wanghunghigh

If this has any basis in truth then the reasons behind TCT tests (5% pass rate?.

I thought it was 0.0015% that passed the TCT tests. (3 out of 2000)

**Sanitysub** · 26th July 2008 08:36

"Do not forget to photocopy your TRAINING CERTIFICATE on Thai Culture ( attach the original copy as well)."

Eh? Why do you need to photocopy if you're sending the original??? - Confused!

S.

**Killing Me Softly 101** · 26th July 2008 08:51

Originally Posted by Sanitysub

Eh? Why do you need to photocopy if you're sending the original??? - Confused! S.

You have only worked for competent organizations then. Think any enormous inefficient government bureaucracy that changes Leaders and all senior posts with each change of PM and you might get the picture.

So yes copy everything.

**Sanitysub** · 26th July 2008 09:12

Ahhh! RIGHT!!! Sorry - I read that as them wanting BOTH!

Would say though, you usually SEND the photocopy and KEEP the original in my little bubble!!

S.

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