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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    why are convicted paedophiles allowed to leave the country unchecked?

    is there not a sex offenders register we can check?

    i believe there is.

    paedophile busted in Pattaya last week, 4 guys I think.

    one of them was arrested and convicted in Pattaya 2 years ago.

    a simple google of his name revealed that to be the case.

    would seem to me there is little or no will here.

    probably paid the cops a couple thousand baht and got sent home.

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Well, whatever - I just think that running a background check on a 'Teacher' isnt too much to expect. TEFLers want to be refered to as 'Teachers' so why object to the fundamental neccessity.

    Maybe AUA will change its tune now its had its own resident Kiddy Fiddler.
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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    why are convicted paedophiles allowed to leave the country unchecked?

    is there not a sex offenders register we can check?

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    In one of the articles about Wrenshall, the Canadian officials that were interviewed stated that Canada is just not equipped to police and track of pedophiles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Desertexile View Post
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    Maybe AUA will change its tune now its had its own resident Kiddy Fiddler.
    AUA has (or had) an ex police commander on staff who was in charge of backgound checks. I guess Mr. Wrenshall slipped through the cracks. (you can go ahead and fill in your joke right here)
    Last edited by kingdomcome; 30th December 2008 at 16:17. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomcome View Post
    The question is, Do YOU know what you're talking about? John Wrenshall had two previous CONVICTIONS for sex with minors. A simple background check would have uncovered that.
    I DO. I guess you don't. Let me explain. If his criminal record isn't in Canada when a school in Thailand asks him to give them a Background check he will go to his Embassy, run it and will come out clean..His conviction wasn't in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomcome View Post
    In one of the articles about Wrenshall, the Canadian officials that were interviewed stated that Canada is just not equipped to police and track of pedophiles.
    I guess you just made my point.
    Last edited by mustafarodupthere; 30th December 2008 at 16:19. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Where was his conviction?
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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by mustafarodupthere View Post
    His conviction wasn't in Canada


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    Let me explain, his conviction was in Canada. (Calgary is in Canada, isn't it? ) A simple background check would have uncovered that. Thank you for making my point.


    Former Calgarian at centre of pedophile bust
    In 1997, Wrenshall was convicted of indecently assaulting eight choir boys at a downtown Calgary church.

    He lured the boys to the university and his home on pretense of performing a study on pre-teen boys' sexuality.

    In 1970, Wrenshall was convicted of a similar charge.

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomcome View Post
    just not equipped to police and track of pedophiles.
    that's quite remarkable to me.

    how many people live in canada?

    about 27?

    the UK has one.

    it's not to be confused with a paedophile register as most of the people on the register did dumb stuff like flashing their penis in the back garden or sticking their nob in the neighbours car's exhaust pipe and got conditional discharges which are struck in time.

    how difficult is it for a country to stick convicted paedophile on a passport at the time of conviction and log it into a database.

    seems to me, they'd prefer them to go from Bournemouth to Mae Hong Son and forget about them.
    Last edited by Humbert; 30th December 2008 at 17:20.

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    So, quite simply, his conviction was in Canada and he holds a Canadian passport - had a background check been made he would have been identified as a Kiddy Fiddler and his employment could have been discontinued. Hell, now that's been cleared up - maybe proven fiddlers should be declared personna non grata once the check is established.

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Desertexile View Post
    had a background check been made he would have been identified as a Kiddy Fiddler and his employment could have been discontinued
    had his passport been taken away, he'd never have entered employment.

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Thats alot to ask - background check for 'teachers' isn't

    I agree with you, mind.
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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Desertexile View Post
    Thats alot to ask - background check for 'teachers' isn't
    logistics of the first would save the rest of us school management and teachers jumping hoops.

    it would be very easy.

    i don't think the will is there, for whatever reason.

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Well rather than wait for international authorities to ban these dirty nonses from leaving their home countries, the employers have the absolute responsibility.
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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    it's a logistical nightmare for school admin here.

    they can't access full CRB checks from the UK.

    i think that's right too, those are intrusive enough as they stand.

    only certain UK organisations have the right to dig.

    social workers, schools etc.

    as an individual, you have no right to access CRB documentation on youself, leaving the only option as those disclosure thingies, forget what they are called now, but they take forever to arrive.

    schools need teachers or they make no money.

    whole system is a bit buggered.

    needs better.

    simple sex crime register available internationally would solve the problem in a button click even if passport removal didn't.

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    I didn't want to say anything, but maybe the school Directors should recognize the problem and take a more proactive approach when hiring foreigners. There are companies online that do Criminal, Educational and other checks for a low fee.

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Computer View Post
    I didn't want to say anything
    makes a nice change.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Computer View Post
    There are companies online that do Criminal, Educational and other checks for a low fee.
    i'd really rather not encourage you to respond, but how long have you been in thailand?
    Last edited by Humbert; 30th December 2008 at 16:56. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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