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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    ^ A green blob is winding its way down the tube to your repo thingy

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Computer View Post
    There are companies online that do Criminal, Educational and other checks for a low fee.
    Missing the point Mr. C. The locals can't even be arsed to check whether a degree is genuine or from the Uni of KSR. I mean, some of these KSR "degrees" are so obviously fake it makes one laugh that nobody (the school, Immigration or the WP people) has noticed it. Bottom line is they don't give a rat's arse who teaches their kids. Sad, but true.
    "But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it?"
    Orwell, "1984"

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by wanghunghigh View Post
    Immingration
    i'm a pedant.

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    i'm a pedant.
    And sometimes I can't spell... Corrected!
    "But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it?"
    Orwell, "1984"

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Does anyone know whether Thai schools do a backgrounk check on Thai teachers?
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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Desertexile View Post
    I'm all for criminal background checks for ALL teachers and Im sure the 99.9999% of non-kiddy fiddling TEFLers are also
    er, the fisticuffs at the disco boys, the teenage twoc lads.. how about caught with a spliff in blackpool? that counts me out. the ones i know with such qualifications are usually ok teachers
    Quote Originally Posted by Desertexile View Post
    The Captain has already been reported as commenting on the offender - fixing the problem is the next best step.
    i'm betting the captain already has it nailed down. hence the inactivity.. and i'm still unsure about the motivation behind letting him get out of los before 'e was knicked
    Quote Originally Posted by mustafarodupthere View Post
    As far as the reputation TEFL farangs have, its deserved
    look, you really shouldn't say stuff like this on a teacher's site, mate. you're blowing your cover ..so to speak
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    why is a paedophile allowed to even enter a country
    that's a good question humbert
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    not 1 of the 23 Thais I spoke to had heard of Wrenshall
    see my point above regarding the capt
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    nothing quite like a bit of sensationalist paedophilic drama to get the expat natives wagging their tails

    Quote Originally Posted by _mw_ View Post
    Noon - why are you so defensive over the pedophile Wrenshall issue?
    well i was going to step in here, but then

    noonbert posted this
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    tell you why. because my mum tells me that people in the UK think we must all be deviants to be living here. reason for this is several fold. some fat kunts come here to marry 18 year old girls that can't speak english and stuff. one or 2 seep through the cracks and want to fiddle with young cawk. 99.99% of us don't want to do the latter, but as to the former, let those without sin. the issue is so slight as to be a non-issue, yet we continue to fan the flames. paedophilia exists, i have no doubt about that, diaw on td is obsessed with his goose chase of some dutch kunt in mukdahan. i don't believe it is statistically relevant. certainly not enough to warrant thread after thread on the same issue. read diaw's post on my thread about subzero on td. far as he and a number of other posters are concerned, any teacher in thailand is a suspected kiddie fiddler. it's drama queenery and i dislike it. i'm playing devil's advocate to an extent, but disapprove of the insinuations. think my mum is going to tell people i live in singapore, altogether a more salubrious place. certainly glad this bastard was caught, but blimey.
    which is one of the best posts that i have ever seen from my bald welsh forum chum
    Quote Originally Posted by Desertexile View Post
    the TEFL populace of Thailand tends to be a bit more deviant than the Educational professional populace Ive met in the UK
    that's because most of the contact you had with "the Educational professional populace Ive met in the UK" was when you were a tear arsed gangsta' student who didn't go on the pish with his teachers
    Quote Originally Posted by Desertexile View Post
    My record is already tainted mate - I wouldnt pass the background checks
    ok. you're forgiven
    you're idea was great btw, but why anyone would be arsed to help this well known language school, despite it's corrupt and self important management structure, is beyond me won't make a scrap of difference to 't staff, mate

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    BTW, if you lived here (in Canada), you would have known that background checks are never done on prospective employees. My GF, who now works with Canadian government officials had to pass one with CSIS (a laughable version of American CIA). I think she is the only one that had a background check passed in the entire company, which is a huge real estate co. in Canada. BTW, just a little trivia. CSIS will let you pass if you

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Ah but I never miss me chance - old habits me bendy glasses mate, old habits.

    Maybe the Captain employed that skinny detective......'she reminds me of my mum', to get the skinny on the fiddler?

    WFT has an estate agent got to do with it? Whats their MO? Lure Itty Bitty titty to look at their luxury apartments?
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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    Who mentioned real estate?

    Ok. I'll make it very simple. There are no background checks if you are employed as an elementary school teacher in Canada, period.

    You are not required to have a background check if you want to open your own kindergarden. As a matter of fact, in some provinces you are not even required to get licensed. A peado can open a kindergarden.

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    I reckon thats bollocks
    I want to live like a poor man,but with a lot of money

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    but lovebucket me old china, it's not necessarily the case that ANY record will count you out, but if people do have sex and violence on their record, and arguably maybe some other things as well, there is a good argument they shouldn't be employed as teachers, no?
    somehow i don't think a playground fight at middle school would count you out, although buggering a 14 year boy when one was a scout leader certainly ought to.
    checks won't catch everyone with a record, as teaching and TEFLing are very international, but they will catch some, and deter others, and that has to be a good thing.
    start with the govt schools and get a system working, then introduce it elsewhere.
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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    surely it would be easier to refer to an international fiddler's register

    they are the ones who just can't seem to stop themselves

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    But that doesn't exist at the moment. We have to work with what is there now, but currently teachers in Thailand don't need to worry about that. Thai authorities could do a lot more than they do to vet teachers with systems that are already in place, but they don't, and that doesn't give me much confidence they will work with any other 'system'. Besides, I don't think it's a good idea to just have tunnel vision about one type of crime when there are other crimes which should also preclude one from teaching, ie sex crimes regardless of age of victim, violent crimes of a certain seriousness, depending on punishment received, and arguably others too.
    Sur votre bicyclette, mate.

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    AUA isn't interested in conducting background checks on applicants or managers or even asking job applicants if they've ever been convicted of a serious crime or have a 'real' college degree. By hiring some 'dodgy characters' (I won't say more because my previous post on a similar thread was pulled by the admin of this website), AUA keeps costs down, as the dodgy guys (yes, they're guys) don't mind the low wages.

    During the early 2000s, Wrenshall (at that time a teacher, not a manager) was selling sex for $200 to $400 a boy according to the US Attorney's press release. So he didn't object to the below market wages AUA was paying him, as his AUA employment was providing an excellent cover for his criminal conduct.

    Unless and until AUA cleans house of the dodgy element, the dedicated, legitimate AUA teachers -- those with clean records and nothing to hide -- will continue to be disadvantaged by AUA's policy of turning a blind eye to the past history of those it hires. I don't see their shameful conduct changing, but I'd certainly be glad to sign a petition, join a demonstration, or whatever else might bring the hard headed administration to its senses, as it was no mystery to many of us who worked with John Wrenshall in the early 2000s that he had a penchant for young boys.

    Amen.

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    Re: John Wrenshall & background checks

    That's right. Because of this policy, it casts doubt on others who work at the same place, or more generally, as has already been said, on the whole Thailand teaching scene.
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