Thread: John Wrenshall & background checks

.....Bruce, any thoughts mate?

You're a clever boy KS - whats your suggestion on background checks that betters Whiteys?

Like I said earlier as far as I know it is LAW for people to have a criminal background check before gaining work as a teacher, if its not how about making it law and enforcing it?

DE you're talking about Thailand ffs, NOTHING is enforced here! Do you honestly think that a few farrangs moaning will make the slightest difference?

I'm all for background checks etc (my school has them) but the majority of schools here just don't care n neither do the police. You're better off pounding your head against a wall then you are trying to get Thailand to change.

Originally Posted by kidneystone

In all honesty, there is no solution! any system employed to try and highlight these people could in all honesty be circumvented. I am all in favour of the idea that anyone convicted of kiddie fiddling or for that matter any sexcrime, should be incarcerated for a fixed period of at least 100 years, in a small wooden box six feet under the ground. But that would only deal with those who get caught.
What to do about the rest? in all honesty I wish I knew.

Jesus fucking H Christ - is there a doctor in the house? Hell, even a vet will do. KS, you just typed 6 lines with neither an insult or a dig. Whats wrong with you? 6 months tolive? Won the lottery? Your pussy stopped hurting? What man, what?


Surely your telling off hasnt worked?

Originally Posted by Cream

Like I said earlier as far as I know it is LAW for people to have a criminal background check before gaining work as a teacher, if its not how about making it law and enforcing it?

DE you're talking about Thailand ffs, NOTHING is enforced here! Do you honestly think that a few farrangs moaning will make the slightest difference?

I'm all for background checks etc (my school has them) but the majority of schools here just don't care n neither do the police. You're better off pounding your head against a wall then you are trying to get Thailand to change.

You misunderstand mate - I arrived in Thailand at 20 and I realise nothing is enforced. Im just all for seeing AUA police itself and see a few others follow. Afterall, its the 'best' language school, isnt it?

That's more like it KS - I prefer it much more when your pussy hurts rather than when you are being reasonable

Interesting snippet of info about the UK here – Yeh, yeh, I know………. Thailand isn’t the UK.

For those who can be arsed:

Following the Soham murder case, the Home Secretary asked Sir Michael Bichard to lead an independent inquiry into child protection measures, record keeping, vetting and information sharing.
The report of Sir Michael's inquiry was published in June 2004. He made 31 recommendations, 8 of which fell to the DfES to take action on. Sir Michael published the final version of his inquiry report on 15 March 2005.

http://www.everychildmatters.gov.uk/_files/8B1AD603DCDB33C72AB47586CE7C3A86.pdf


Beverley Hughes, Minister for Children, Young People and Families and Jim Knight, Minster for Schools wrote to all head teachers setting out, how record-keeping in relation to recruitment checks carried out by schools should be improved.

http://www.teachernet.gov.uk/docbank/index.cfm?id=9891

Jeanette Pugh and Andrew McCully, Directors of the Safeguarding and School Workforce Groups at the DfES respectively, wrote again to all head teachers with details of how schools should undertake to strengthen record-keeping procedures

http://www.teachernet.gov.uk/docbank/index.cfm?id=9958

Originally Posted by Desertexile

So, now that this case has been publicised and the guy's background posted all over the net it seems pretty obvious that AUA doesnt do background checks - which is suprising given the amount of Kids/teens they teach and the reputation its strives to maintain. That said, AUA is just following the norm and doesnt stand out from any other training provider.

I'm all for criminal background checks for ALL teachers and Im sure the 99.9999% of non-kiddy fiddling TEFLers are also. Indeed, I'd like to see a petition sent to the MoE by the TEFL army insisting on it. So how about asking your schools/institutes to start their own individual petitions and send to the appropriate authorities?

If the MoE receive enough names, perhaps background checks will be fully implemented and the TEFL army will be seen to be taking a proactive step to cleaning up its own ranks. Certainly can't hurt given the dire reputation TEFL Teachers currently have.

If the employers can't get their shit together, perhaps its time for the employees to manage & guide its employers a little on this. Afterall, most TEFLers do strive to be perceived as professional.

I wonder what the reputable international schools policy is?

I think it's a brilliant idea having personally seen right in front of me a "paedo in action" many years ago at "this" school I was working at.

But... it won't won't work in Thailand. Not to mention the extra hassles teachers will get.

My two cents

Originally Posted by mustafarodupthere

Give it to them. They will smile at you and when you turn around throw it in the trash. The appropriate authorities don't want to hear a farang telling them what to do.

As far as the reputation TEFL farangs have, its deserved. Most of them are unqualified sex tourists who decided to stay, took a 120 hr. TEFL course and are now being called "teachers" What a joke!. Too easy to get a job here.

Excellent post. Totally agree with you.

You misunderstand mate - I arrived in Thailand at 20 and I realise nothing is enforced. Im just all for seeing AUA police itself and see a few others follow. Afterall, its the 'best' language school, isnt it?

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I am afraid AUA isn't the best language school in los. It's the British Council that is numero uno. No offence.

Originally Posted by Eric C

If a (nearly) 1st world Western country like Canada

oh snap no he di-int!

I think the only feasible solution is an international agreement that anyone convicted of a sex crime should have it noted in their passport. In fact, why not list any major crime (felony) conviction in people's passports?

And that still doesn't cover people convicted of crimes in countries other than the one that issues the passport.