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Thread: The consequences of using a fake degree: Mr. Hippo's day in court.

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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    For those of you who are wondering about the details that caused Mr. Hippo to have to go to court today here is the explanation:

    http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/the-sta...ml#post1191666 (Fake Degrees)
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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    Quote Originally Posted by stfranalum View Post
    i thought it was a law (in the states) that those records are private
    Frannie, are you baked? Of course that's legal. Employers verify those records all the time in the States. It's as easy as contacting the registrar's office and asking if so-and-so graduated in the year the applicant claims. Our school did it regularly three years ago.

    Employers however, are restricted from adding any info about past employment beyond verifying dates of employment.

    I too am glad Hippo is not spending an extended time behind Thai bars. Only the worst of the worst deserve that hell. I just hope Hippo wasn't one of those telling Grassy (RIP) that he deserved everything he got for his drug offence.

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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    Why? Did he?

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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    Quote Originally Posted by crew View Post
    Frannie, are you baked? Of course that's legal. Employers verify those records all the time in the States. It's as easy as contacting the registrar's office and asking if so-and-so graduated in the year the applicant claims.
    not in Britain it ain't. I tried to get a verification on one of our teachers degree (for the school) and was told by the uni in the UK no chance without the written authority of the individual.
    they refused so the school could not check if it was real.
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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    Well, our hippo isnt a piss taker like that, is he. He would never have said anything like that to Grassy, would he.

    So what was the name of the Judge then, 'you lucky, lucky, lucky bastard', Hippo, who didnt decide to deport your arse back West but gave you a 6 montb suspended sentence.

    Now - about those 60 and all you lot who have been working on fake degrees for the last 7-8 years.................

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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    I don't get this thread. I must be missing a lot on this forum and I try and log in every day.... I really do try.....

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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomcome View Post
    Go on, dig out the judges name
    How would this help? Just because he was 'my' judge, does not mean that he will be trying similar cases. The Criminal Court is not just one court; I was on the 4th floor of the central building, there were about 10 courts on half of that floor.

    Quote Originally Posted by stfranalum View Post
    if you didnt, and just told them that the paper was legit....what could they have done, notified the university to verify your degree? are they even allowed to do that? i thought it was a law (in the states) that those records are private or was it your burden to prove yourself innocent by producing documents? and if so, how did they catch onto you for not having those documents?
    If I lied to them, I would have been in more trouble! Did they contact the university? I don't know. I believe that the police raid KSR and have copies of degrees so all they have to do is to check signatures on the degrees. There are many universities but the degree sellers only use a few signatures so how can 'Joe Soap' sign degrees for Podunk University, University of Wagga Wagga & Misomer St Dawes in the same year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    How much did you have to pay the lawyer, out of interest, if you don't mind? This would be of interest to others, I'm sure. Do they charge hourly? And what of the future? I guess finding work you're legally entitled to do now will be hard?
    I don't know how much it cost. My mother-in-law said "You're family, don't worry about it!" so I have not asked.
    I retired a few years ago and my only 'work' now is riding my bike!
    Last edited by hippo; 12th June 2009 at 00:49. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    Glad to hear you came out of it all OK Hippo.

    The writing has been on the wall for some time regarding fake documents. The Thais just haven't been enacting laws they laid down back in 2003 governing work permits and teacher's licenses. Thai bureaucracy moves slowly but they are thorough. Those with fake degrees should consider enrolling for real degrees so they can prove good intentions when the hammer falls.
    Faith, by itself, isn't a good enough reason to believe. Instead, a belief must be defensible through reason, logic, and evidence.
    The idea that faith is somehow justified by the fact that the beliefs cannot be proven is a truly Orwellian position to adopt - not to mention intellectually and ethically dangerous.

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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    Quote Originally Posted by crew View Post
    Of course that's legal. Employers verify those records all the time in the States. It's as easy as contacting the registrar's office and asking if so-and-so graduated in the year the applicant claims. Our school did it regularly three years ago.
    I'm pretty sure that the student has to give written permission before their records can be released from a Uni.
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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    Quote Originally Posted by hippo View Post
    How would this help?
    To see if a pattern is happening. It would be a legal conflict of interest if it was just the one judge doing it and pretty embarassing for Thai justice.

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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    Quote Originally Posted by re_fuse View Post
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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    ^ a bit like Muslim Scholar



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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    Quote Originally Posted by re_fuse View Post
    a bit like Muslim Scholar
    Hey!

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    Re: Mr Hippo's day in court

    Great to see you had a decent result Hippo.May your glass be ever full.

    It might well be a good idea if the opening comments from Hippo concerning the checking of fake degrees were pinned as a warning to the K.S.R. University graduates.
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