Being forced from a job I love...

**panhunger** · 8th March 2011 10:56

Originally Posted by Thaitanium

I've also matured enough to let go of the pointlessness that you seem to hold so tightly to...namely your western sense of importance. I've been out of the west long enough for those petty, childish feelings to dissipate and I'm now left with a quiet calm as to who I am and It truly doesn't feel like I'm giving or losing anything more than time...

Why do you think that keeping a sense of personal worth is equal to entitlement? Why is it childish to want to be treated with respect?

Originally Posted by Thaitanium

With that in mind...why would I want to make my working and living life hell just to hold on to some western cultural conditioning that I've come to see as pointless? I don't think I'm losing anything by doing what I'm doing...it's just making life easier...and that's my goal...what's yours?

Why do you think my life is a living hell because I won't let people walk all over me like you do? ...and dude, doormats don't lose, they gain all the dirt and scum the bottom of a shoe is willing to give. Eat up!

**Western Devil** · 8th March 2011 11:00

Originally Posted by Robin Hood

For the whole of the next school year they gossiped about me, blatantly ignored me in classes and activities with students and parents, caused other Thai colleagues who were once friends to ignore me also....It really has been a year of hell. I went to the deputy pricipal about these matters but in usual Thai style, heads were buried in the sand. I can not go to the Principal as she loves the Phillipines dearly and won't have a word said against them.

I honestly am asking: why is there so much politics in English schools in Asia? Is it like this everywhere?

Childish, immature, puerile behavior of gossiping, ganging up on people, etc.

Maybe these two women have a different perspective, and/or a reason. Perhaps they are on ego and power trips.

Not all schools have these ego and political issues, but many do.

**Thaitanium** · 8th March 2011 11:03

and why do I have to let people walk all over me just because I don't freak out over every litle stupid thing Thais are capable of?'''

Originally Posted by panhunger

Why do you think that keeping a sense of personal worth is equal to entitlement? Why is it childish to want to be treated with respect?

So your goal is to be treated with respect from people who you think of as stupid monkeys? What's the prize there?

I don't get my respect from people mate...It comes from within and if it doesn't for you then you're never going to be satisfied because the the respect you think you're getting from others isn't real mate.

Originally Posted by panhunger

Why do you think my life is a living hell because I won't let people walk all over me like you do? ...and dude, doormats don't lose, they gain all the dirt and scum the bottom of a shoe is willing to give. Eat up!

Like I do?...That's quite a leap there mate. So because I choose to take the path of least resistance that makes me a door mat...Ok got it...

**panhunger** · 8th March 2011 11:06

Originally Posted by Thaitanium

me a door mat...Ok got it...

...I guess we can put this one to rest.

**Thaitanium** · 8th March 2011 11:09

Weak exit mate...I'll remember in the future not to take you too seriously...evidently you don't either...

**Western Devil** · 8th March 2011 11:12

Originally Posted by Thaitanium

I personally don't feel like I'm selling anything but my time...I'm also not here to climb any ladders or win any prizes...I also don't have a need to garner self worth or respect from a nothing job in a nothing system...I am a realist and I recognize that this is one of few jobs I can get in Thailand and I've made the choice to live and work here.

IMO, this is a very successful mental strategy.

It's the attitude and thought process I mainly use.

I do my best. I take it seriously.

But I know that I can (and someday will) be replaced by another instructor. I see myself as a private contractor.

The people that get too involved mentally or emotionally, often are let down, and suffer from it.

**panhunger** · 8th March 2011 11:12

Originally Posted by Thaitanium

and why do I have to let people walk all over me just because I don't freak out over every litle stupid thing Thais are capable of?'

Originally Posted by Thaitanium

So your goal is to be treated with respect from people who you think of as stupid monkeys?

Originally Posted by Thaitanium

I don't get my respect from people mate...It comes from within and if it doesn't for you then you're never going to be satisfied because the the respect you think you're getting from others isn't real mate.

...this is weak.

**Thaitanium** · 8th March 2011 11:15

Oh I thought you were done??

so...we're embarking on the childish insults path now...well this is where we'll part company mate...you have at it...

**tropic of cancer** · 8th March 2011 11:27

Today 11:54

Originally Posted by Thaitanium

^dickhead...

---Update---

Today 12:15

Originally Posted by Thaitanium

o...we're embarking on the childish insults path now

**Thaitanium** · 8th March 2011 11:30

Although pannies argument is warped and singularly myopic...he does reason quite well from his unique perspective...

You on the other hand are worth only one word answers...so consider this a gift...

**tropic of cancer** · 8th March 2011 11:30

Originally Posted by Thaitanium

I've also matured enough to let go of the pointlessness that you seem to hold so tightly to...namely your western sense of importance. I've been out of the west long enough for those petty, childish feelings to dissipate and I'm now left with a quiet calm as to who I am

Pseuds Corner beckons...

**Classic-Chassis** · 8th March 2011 11:44

For what it's worth, which isn't a great deal because it sounds like the job has been done. Because the sisters aren't Thai I'd take the passive aggressive approach. I wouldn't leave upon a suggestion. I'd be there for at least another year, or until that sacked me.
I'd enjoy every minute of watching both sisters getting madder and madder at my calm, none confrontational presence.
The result would be one of several things. They stop being silly because they realise that's what they're being. Other people start to see them for the witches they are, and they stop because the know this. you get fired and don't get the reference which is no big loss.

**Thaitanium** · 8th March 2011 11:50

I concur...so they've gone through 3 previous teachers with their antics...I'd see that as a challenge...stick it out and keep your nose clean and drive them to greater lengths whereby they uncover to everyone else just what little witches they are.

You've seen 3 other teachers cower and pack it in and they are still at it...why not try a different approach.

I'd do what CC suggests...

**WilliamBlake** · 8th March 2011 13:33

Start a facebook/twitter revolution. It's the in thing.

**Fantomas** · 8th March 2011 13:39

Originally Posted by tropic of cancer

Have you read the post clearly Thaitanium? At least four teachers (of which I'm one) have left because of these teachers. In this circumstance it seems a little perverse to try and finger the farang for the blame. It wasn't a case of us 'drawing attention' to ourselves - we were attacked.

I don't want to sound callous (which of course is an announcement that I willl) but you shoulda' humped the sisters, or at least given it a good try. I don't care if they're heifers. You gotta do what you gotta do to protect your beefsteak. Diner, back to the pad to see your wonderful collection of fine Japanese etching and a nice glass of porto. Bob's your uncle.