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    I'm in favour of discrimination in advertising. Race, age, sex... whatever.

    I would rather know in advance whether I am likely to be a serious candidate for a job rather than traipse over town and go through the charade of a fake interview just to appease the muddle minded liberals. It also tells me something about the organization that may determine whether or not I want to work for them.

    By banning discrimination in advertising for jobs you create all sorts of frustrations both for employers and for job candidates.

    Let me ask you this...

    If you wanted your child to learn Chinese would you give the job to a black South African with a degree in Chinese language or a Chinese person who simply speaks and writes Chinese?

    Banning discrimination in advertising doesn't make discrimination go away. It actually exacerbates the situation in a way where nobody wins.

    Just one look at the ridiculous situation in the UK where job centers have to offer jobs to everyone despite many applicants being clearly unsuitable for the tasks.

    Nope. I much prefer an open and honest system where people are up front about their preferences and opinions.

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    Yep. Pretty much agree with KruMark

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    Quote Originally Posted by KhunKruMark View Post
    I much prefer an open and honest system where people are up front about their preferences and opinions
    ...that's fine...until qualified folks (let's say native speakers) are discriminated against because employers don't like particular skin colors, religions, orientations, nose sizes, etc. White folks in the southern US and apartheid South Africa were quite clear about their preferences and why. Your preference for openess and honesty is laudable when advertising canned goods and shaving cream...it opens the door to intolerance when applied to people...
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    I haven't much against it. As mentioned, if they don't want your product it's best to know straight away. What else can you do .. go on a crusade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny danger View Post
    I haven't much against it
    ...of course not: you're a straight white native speaker...a solid majority man...

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    No Tom. I'm old. Tell me old isn't grounds for discrimination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny danger View Post
    I'm old
    ...not when you were actively peddling your wares as a language teacher...

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    That kid in the picture died.

    The photographer was so wracked with remorse about why he did not help................ that in later years, he took his own life.

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    This sort of thing happens in Northeast Asia too. Workplace discrimination is common in China, Korea, Japan and Taiwan. Things will probably gradually change and people will get more open to having foreigners of different races working in their schools.

    A lot can happen in 50 or so years look how much happened in the USA.

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    I am not sure what fighting it can do. I think the only way things will change faster is if there is some incident of discrimination that gets in the national news or TV. Something like that happened in Korea to an Indian guy. Racism in Korea: Indian media interviews Bonojit Hussain (

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    ...that's fine...until qualified folks (let's say native speakers) are discriminated against because employers don't like particular skin colors, religions, orientations, nose sizes, etc.
    I disagree...

    Surely in the Thailand teaching industry my skin colour is one of my qualifications.

    Like it or not the students are more likely to learn from a white teacher. Teachers are more likely to respect a white teacher. Parents are more likely to pay for a white teacher.

    Is it fair? No, of course it isn't. Would I like it if I was black? No.

    Good luck if you want to fight a battle about equality and fairness, but don't ask me to sign any petition until the National Black Police Association in the UK accepts a white policeman as a member.

    So you see... blatant racism is just as apparent, open and entrenched in the west as it is over here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin Hood View Post
    I have never seen that picture before or knew the story. Very sad.
    Hey robin, they made a movie about the photographer and 4 others...It's called "The Bang Bang Club"...

    You can download it here...

    The.Bang.Bang.Club.2010.DVDRip.XviD-ViP3R (download torrent) - TPB

    Pretty good film...
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    Like it or not the students are more likely to learn from a white teacher. Teachers are more likely to respect a white teacher. Parents are more likely to pay for a white teacher.


    What a load of rubbish and a frighteningly stupid series of statements!

    A person can be a native speaker of English and be any race.

    Students are more likely to learn from teachers who know what they are doing regardless of the teacher's race rather than just being taught by any random white person who can barely string a sentence together and whose only qualification is that their skin colour.
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    Within the first 15 seconds of meeting a Black person I'm thinking to myself: This person is Black. Then all that goes away. I doubt most Thais, Chinese, Koreans and whomever has that circuitry. IMO they don't have to accept Western 21st Century thinking. They're rude and crude. And if you're living there with them there must be an attraction. Remember, they were in the Steam Age 50 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KhunKruMark View Post
    Surely in the Thailand teaching industry


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    What a load of rubbish and a frighteningly stupid series of statements!

    A person can be a native speaker of English and be any race.
    cryst Haltest...read much?...maybe a refresher course in reading comprehension is in order...

    he clearly was taking the Thai perspective for effect...

    you see all those qualifications you flaunt and continuously bang on about are useless without the intellect to support them...

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    And the stone age 50 years before that.

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