Tefl?

**wobble** · 6th October 2011 04:19

Interesting how the same old 'anti training' obsessives like bet and latm never seem to give up over years and years and years.

No training is better than training as far as they are concerned, it seems.

Interesting and puzzling.

Originally Posted by ttompatz

To those nay-sayers who argue in favor of a TEFL cert for everyone rather than a real teaching certification (licensed teacher) .

Has there been a single post ever ever on here where anyone has said that a one month TEFL cert should be favoured over a home teacher license?

Ever?

Link?

Any teacher training is better than no teacher training, and who on earth studies for a 4 year ed degree back home with the aim of earning 30,000baht a month for life?

Originally Posted by latm

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ttompatz again.

Funny, I don't remember giving any to ttompatz before.

Oh god - ik bloody laew. Off he goes again for the millionth time

Can someone make it easier on me and just extract my toenails?

**Warhammer820** · 6th October 2011 06:53

Originally Posted by wobble

Any teacher training is better than no teacher training, and who on earth studies for a 4 year ed degree back home with the aim of earning 30,000baht a month for life?

I don't plan on earning that for life. I am hoping to at least use my certification to make at least 50,000 somewhere down the road.

**tomcat** · 6th October 2011 06:57

Originally Posted by Warhammer820

to make at least 50,000 somewhere down the road

...why compete with the bottom feeders: since you have US classroom experience, why not aim for a reputable international school (I assume there is one) and a much higher compensation package?

**Warhammer820** · 6th October 2011 06:59

Originally Posted by tomcat

why compete with the bottom feeders: since you have US classroom experience, why not aim for a reputable international school (I assume there is one) and a much higher compensation package?

I have about at least 100 hours of classroom experience right now, but I am not employed by the school system. Those hours are required by my university to graduate. The international schools that I looked at over the web required at least 2 hours of experience.

**tomcat** · 6th October 2011 07:03

...if you graduate with a B.Ed, you're qualified for an inter school...what schools post on the web is their wish list: they're not always able to get the folks they want...whether or not the school system has employed you, the total classroom experience you will have is invaluable and should be stressed on your resume...

**Warhammer820** · 6th October 2011 07:06

Originally Posted by tomcat

..if you graduate with a B.Ed, you're qualified for an inter school...what schools post on the web is their wish list: they're not always able to get the folks they want...whether or not the school system has employed you, the total classroom experience you will have is invaluable and should be stressed on your resume...

I hope that they see it your way.

**tomcat** · 6th October 2011 07:15

...once your feet are on the ground here and you do a little field research, I think you'll find there's tremendous demand for someone of your age, energy level, and educational background...put together a list of the best (highest paying) schools and don't jump at the first opportunity...

**Warhammer820** · 6th October 2011 07:18

Originally Posted by tomcat

...once your feet are on the ground here and you do a little field research, I think you'll find there's tremendous demand for someone of your age, energy level, and educational background...put together a list of the best (highest paying) schools and don't jump at the first opportunity...

What was your favorite job in Thailand?

**tomcat** · 6th October 2011 07:25

...my only job in Thailand was at a well-known university in bkk: it was the high point of my career in education in terms of student classroom ability, the professionalism of colleagues, and personal satisfaction...

**Warhammer820** · 6th October 2011 07:28

Nice. I have only observed one university in Thailand, and it seems they really respect teachers.

**tomcat** · 6th October 2011 07:40

Originally Posted by Warhammer820

it seems they really respect teachers

...dangerous to generalize: much depends on individual admin at universities...the pervasive stench of cronyism, nepotism, and other forms of corruption may be difficult to avoid...even if you're only looking at the rosiest scenarios...still, I find ignoring the worst aspects and focusing on one's job keeps one sane and reasonably happy...however, inter schools are still the best way to go in terms of cash...

**Warhammer820** · 6th October 2011 07:42

Originally Posted by tomcat

owever, inter schools are still the best way to go in terms of cash...

Yes, a guy I met in Thailand only makes 20,000 baht at a university in a smaller city.

**tomcat** · 6th October 2011 08:08

...avoid folks who actively seek out poverty as a lifestyle...

**Warhammer820** · 6th October 2011 08:09

Originally Posted by tomcat

...avoid folks who actively seek out poverty as a lifestyle...

He just does it for fun. He is in grad school in America and went to Thailand for an experience.

**tomcat** · 6th October 2011 08:20

...the best way to experience poverty is in the knowledge that it's just an experience to broaden one's understanding of poor folks, not something permanent (or even longlasting)...