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    Requesting advice on university positions

    Hi everyone,

    I would really appreciate your suggestions on getting a “nice” university position in Bangkok. I'll explain in a second what I mean by nice.


    A little bit about myself. I'm 36 years old. I'm currently in South Korea teaching English at a university. I've been here for almost 2 years, and when my contract is up in August I'm planning to move back to Thailand with my wife. Before coming to Korea I worked in Bangkok for 3 years at a Rajabhat in Thonburi, so I have an idea what university jobs are like in Thailand. I have a BA, a CELTA and am halfway through a M.Ed.


    I would love to get your thoughts on universities in Bangkok primarily. I am somewhat open to other cities as long as conveniences such as supermarkets, hospitals and nice parks are available. I am mainly interested in a place with a relaxed working environment, where foreign teachers are not required to be on the premises when not teaching. I would also prefer a university where the sign-in procedures are loosely enforced or not implemented at all. This would be great because I could work on completing my masters and studying Thai. The 29k baht salary wouldn't be a huge problem, though I would prefer more


    Thank you very much.


    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepino View Post
    cities as long as conveniences such as supermarkets, hospitals and nice parks are available.
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    I would also prefer a university where the sign-in procedures are loosely enforced or not implemented at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pepino View Post
    I would prefer more
    Would sir be requiring a private butler...

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    No need, I'm ok

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    Those jobs defo do exist...but the mere fact that most people who have them would be daft to leave them means that they usually remain off the market and walking into one from out of country would seem as likely as achieving a Thai passport...

    Not impossible...but equally as plausible...your best chance is accepting a normal job and networking yourself into a better one...most of the cush jobs are never advertised as they tend to be filled via word of mouth...

    I actually have one of those jobs right now and after starting out in a gov middle school, I got lucky to hook up with a girl who got a job here first...so it was an easy in...my job was never advertised...


    But hey...you might be one of those incredibly lucky people whom everything always works out for...
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    Thanks Thaitanium.


    For a job that pays 29,000 I don't know if I would consider myself so lucky if I got one, unless the management was really nice.


    Rather than paying my dues (and I think I did that somewhat already) and hoping to make those special contacts, I'd rather have someone here who knows of such positions pass the knowledge along. I think it takes less time and it leaves less to chance. And after all shouldn't we be assisting each other with concrete help here? Share the wealth guys


    Mike

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    ...call the English Department, Faculty of Arts (not language center) at Chula to request an interview: B35k to start and a 13th month bonus yearly; 3 courses, 11 classroom hours, and tons of prep (these are excellent students)...there are also opportunites for overtime and teaching in other programs...
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    Sounds great. Thanks tomcat.

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    cold calls, in general, are likely the way forward. as Thaitanium said these jobs never make it to the papers.
    Imodium can't stop me.

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    Semester starts in June so the August arrival might pose a problem

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    University positions sometimes appear on their website, but they don't last long. That's how I found mine. I had a BSc, a CELTA, and one year of teaching experience when I was hired. With your qualifications, a decent position shouldn't be out of reach. Timing is everything though.

    I'm leaving in a couple of months to do an MSc. I'm being replaced by a former colleague back for his second stint at the university. The position was not advertised.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pepino View Post
    For a job that pays 29,000 I don't know if I would consider myself so lucky if I got one, unless the management was really nice.
    Look at the overall package. At my university there are opportunities to teach international program courses. One international course adds three hours a week of teaching to your schedule and effectively doubles your salary. Two international courses will almost triple it. They don't run 12 months a year though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pepino View Post
    I'd rather have someone here who knows of such positions pass the knowledge along
    Wouldn't we all

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    B35k to start and a 13th month bonus yearly; 3 courses, 11 classroom hours, and tons of prep (these are excellent students)...there are also opportunites for overtime and teaching in other programs...
    As I am considering university work once I begin teaching, I follow/research as much univ. info as possible. The overwhelming consensus that I find is that univ. work pays so little compared to government and therefore many people do not cosider working at universities. Having read Tomcat's suggested salary/benefits for Chula, I wonder why so many people say that univ. work pays so little.

    35K + 3K(35K/12=3K) + Overtime(not typical of government schools) = a decent starting income per month. Plus, when comparing univ. work to government work, one would think that your work environment/infrastructure (not colleagues) would be better....which is an added bonus. Also, student attitude/work ethic would be better as well.

    What's everyone's opinion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiSo HoBo View Post
    I wonder why so many people say that univ. work pays so little.
    Many people don't look beyond the base salary.

    Quote Originally Posted by HiSo HoBo View Post
    one would think that your work environment/infrastructure (not colleagues) would be better....which is an added bonus. Also, student attitude/work ethic would be better as well.
    Sometimes. Depends on the faculty.

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    zeusbheld,
    Thanks. Cold calling and “cold walking” are awesome. Might get a great job, plus nothing beats that feeling of accomplishment! Still the question remains: am cold calling the right place?



    Amanpour,
    In my case, I've never been able to find any positions on the university sites I've looked at. It might be a question of bad timing or lack of searching ability on my part. In your experience, are the job postings on the main site or you have to dig really deep through the site to find them?


    Speaking of timing, how long before the start of the semester was the job advertised online? I am planning to get there the first week of September looking for a November start.


    Quote Originally Posted by Amanpour View Post
    Wouldn't we all
    If we would then we should

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepino View Post
    Still the question remains: am cold calling the right place?
    i can't really help you narrow the list down because even though i'm looking into university jobs, i'm looking for a particular subject (in English, but not teachering English). English teaching seems to be a pretty good deal though because you'll likely be offered more overtime classes than more specialized teachers (especially those of us whose preferred subject is somewhat obscure).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepino View Post
    In your experience, are the job postings on the main site or you have to dig really deep through the site to find them?
    The job ads were posted on the faculty's main page. Google would be your friend; university websites aren't the easiest sites to navigate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pepino View Post
    Speaking of timing, how long before the start of the semester was the job advertised online?
    Way in advance for me. The ad went up in December, I started working in May. Not a good few months for my bank account. Another university I looked at while I waited for a decision posted March for a June start. It's probably best to just keep checking every couple of weeks.

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