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    Status of English language in Thailand not important ― education is key issue

    Lately there has been increasing debate about the status of the English language in Thai society.

    Many arguments are made for and against the relevance of English and its usefulness. Arguments made by Thai politicians take us back and forth about the role of English and distract us from the realities of this new century. This nationalistic faction believes that imposing the English language on Thai people is against their culture, heritage and unique identity. The same group also argues that Thailand was never colonized, so why bother to learn English. For them English is the language of the British colonies. It has no place in Thai society. Some others with a myopic vision believe that Thais should not be made to feel insecure and inferior because of all the hype about the importance of learning English.

    It is a historical fact that in the 17th century the British did not go around the world to impose their language; they went to trade. Later, they forcibly occupied many countries in Africa and Asia. And of course they occupied North America as well. In their more than 300 years of history in Africa and Asia, they conquered many countries. This was followed by the creation of their own system of education, transport, communication and governance. The British did not necessarily force people in the colonies to embrace English. In many cases, the rulers of princely states and elites in the colonies willingly adopted English to have better relations with their new rulers. The spread of English in the colonies did not drastically change the native cultures and identities. In India, Malaysia and Hong Kong the English language became an alternate means of communication. It was always used along with several local languages and dialects.

    In Europe the British did not impose their rule on neighboring countries. Scandinavian countries were never colonized but they learned to do business with Britain. They willingly adopted English as a second language so that they could have better economic ties with Britain.

    The days of colonization are now history. Every country that was part of the British Empire is now free. The whole landscape has changed with the rapid expansion of communication technologies, transportation and financial markets. Colonization has been replaced by the much more powerful forces of globalization. The English language is no longer a cultural imposition; it is the language of the Internet. It has become the language of the global markets.

    In this context, a common language can be a powerful tool to succeed in globalized economies. So the old argument that language is integral to a cultural identity does not necessarily lead to separating it from other facets of culture. Language is just one part of a culture.

    To be able to migrate to other countries and find a better paying job requires knowing more than one language. Knowing English is vital when a person wants to go to Britain, Australia or America for higher education or to explore options for a better job or a career. Proficiency in English becomes an essential requirement. One’s culture is not going to help one to survive in a foreign land. Besides manners, work ethics and lifestyle issues, the language should be seen as an essential survival tool.

    In Thailand, English teaching and learning problems cannot be solved only by employing “native speakers.”

    Switzerland and many other European countries where teaching and learning English is a big success, do not rely on what my colleague Dr. Sorin calls “na(t)ive” speakers, but on their own teachers of English.

    In Asia, a good example is India. Although colonized for more than two centuries, India does not employ foreigners to teach English. Yet, it has a huge population that can speak and write English. It has produced its own English teachers. They are all graduates of Indian universities, majoring in English. Singapore and Malaysia also follow the same model.

    If the Thai Ministry of Education is genuinely interested in improving English education, it has to do the following:

    Improve the quality of Thai English teachers. Teachers of English have to be an inspiration for their students. It should be natural for young Thai students to say “If my teacher can do it, I can do it too.” A white native speaker from Texas without a degree in English literature can never be an inspiration for Thai students.

    If Thailand really wants to employ foreign teachers, then they must be qualified language teachers, not just native speakers. They have to be trained in language or linguistics and speak at least one or more foreign languages.

    There may be some similarities between ASEAN and the European Union’s Bologna Process, which seeks to harmonize the region’s higher education system, but in comparison to Europe, the diversity in education systems and economic development across ASEAN presents many more difficult challenges. There is still hope that both Thai politicians and civil servants will realize that English is playing a major role in the process of globalization and that in the upcoming Asian Economic Community, the English language can become a common language and act as a glue that can bind the region together.

    Another area of improvement that requires urgent action is the Thai popular media. There should be more English-language newspapers, magazines, radio stations and television shows focused on creating sights and sounds that can facilitate the learning of English.

    So instead of wasting time on deciding what to call the English language ― English as a Foreign Language (EFL) or English as a Second Language (ESL) ― the Thai Ministry of Education should really be engaged in improving the quality of English teachers and of English teaching in Thailand.

    By Kuldeep Nagi

    Kuldeep Nagi is a Fulbright Fellow from Seattle, USA and is currently a faculty member at Assumption University, Bangkok. ― Ed.

    (The Nation (Thailand))
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    Well, I can't find much to argue with there. It may be like a turkey voting for Christmas but, broadly speaking, I agree with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiSo HoBo View Post
    A white native speaker from Texas without a degree in English literature can never be an inspiration for Thai students.
    What does English literature have to do with teaching TEFL? He seems to contradict himself in the next paragraph when he says;

    Quote Originally Posted by HiSo HoBo View Post
    They have to be trained in language or linguistics and speak at least one or more foreign languages.

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    I believe this was posted not too long ago and the consensus was...pipedream...


    The writer is an idiot if he's actually serious...this is so shallow that it's not even worth noticing...it reads more like a stab a falang teachers in Thailand than any kind of call for change...

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    here it is... http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/the-sta...necessity.html (English language in Thailand: Hype or Necessity?)
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    love the way the dipshit doesn't see the connection between India living under English rule for so long and their not needing to import native sapeakers. the Nation is the most biased, clueless, out-of-touch sorry excuse for a newspaper in all of Thailan, and that's saying something.

    that said, i like the headline. the Thai education system probably should put way more emphasis on math and science and less on employing as many 'English teachers' as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiSo HoBo View Post
    Kuldeep Nagi is a Fulbright Fellow from Seattle, USA
    It's not a Nation journalist. Perhaps Fulbright Fellowships are used to ship off embarrassing staff members, either that the standard of US academia is just generally shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeusbheld View Post
    love the way the dipshit doesn't see the connection between India living under English rule for so long and their not needing to import native sapeakers.
    I was thinking the same thing.

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    How can the English language not have been involved in changing India? For decades it was the language of the courts and civil service. Not being able to speak English marks you as a member of the underclass.

    I don't disagree with the jist of his article but he says some daft things on the way there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Mulga View Post
    It's not a Nation journalist.
    it's published by and in the Nation. they have a talent for finding people who agree with their rather narrow point of view and publishing them (and only them). hilariously one of their polemicists said that the agitators who want to change the LM laws were brought up badly... one of the main agitators is the son of the owner/editor-in-chief.

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    I always bought the Bangkok Post, I found the Nation's crossword to be full of questions only a Sepo would know the answer to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Mulga View Post
    I found the Nation's crossword to be full of questions only a Sepo would know the answer to.
    Same here - but have you noticed that the Sunday BP crossword can be a bit er...awkward in that vein?

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    Yes, like most things Thais do they do it just to annoy me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiSo HoBo View Post
    And of course they occupied North America as well.
    This line could have been lifted from '1066 and all that.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiSo HoBo View Post
    There should be more English-language newspapers, magazines, radio stations and television shows focused on creating sights and sounds that can facilitate the learning of English.
    He's going to run head first into that strong anti-colonial sense of pride here, not to mention, how do you market English media to people who don't want it? Very pie-in-the-sky stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiSo HoBo View Post
    A white native speaker from Texas without a degree in English literature can never be an inspiration for Thai students.
    He could have omitted 'from Texas,' so I wonder why he's got an ax to grind for Texas? Maybe a Texan ran off with his gf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiSo HoBo View Post
    A white native speaker from Texas without a degree in English literature can never be an inspiration for Thai students.
    He could have omitted 'from Texas,' so I wonder why he's got an ax to grind for Texas? Maybe a Texan ran off with his gf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiSo HoBo View Post
    If Thailand really wants to employ foreign teachers, then they must be qualified language teachers, not just native speakers. They have to be trained in language or linguistics and speak at least one or more foreign languages.
    Way to bash the teachers who fly halfway around the world at their own expense, toil at third world wages and have no meaningful professional development as part of their employment in Thai schools. Anyways, today I learned I don't have 'tertiary syphillis' by taking a blood test to renew my work permit. That's been it for 'professional development' for me this last year.

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