11,000 baht a month for a full-time NES

**Jimmy Mulga** · 5th May 2012 20:17

Originally Posted by Guy Mandude

I've met Western teachers who've been at the same school for 5, 7 or 10 years, and they're still treated like lapdogs.

I don't think "lap dog" is quite fair. I always got the impression that my TA's real job description was "falang handler". I think a more apt simile would be "semi-tame soi dog".

**Guy Mandude** · 5th May 2012 20:30

Originally Posted by Jimmy Mulga

"falang handler". I think a more apt simile would be "semi-tame soi dog".

Shitzu or mangy mutt, it's still the same bark. Is there any govt school in Thailand where ajarn farang has been promoted to an actual administrative job?

**eumel** · 7th May 2012 08:23

Originally Posted by Bangkok Phil

11,000 baht a month for a full-time NES

I've just had a job sent to me for a full-time native English speaker and the salary offered is between 11,000 and 13,000 baht depending on experience. But they do pay for the work permit. This is not some temple school over-run with stray dogs; this is a large secondary school just outside Bangkok.

Just when I thought it couldn't get any crazier.

I emailed them to see if they had made a mistake. They hadn't.

And before anyone says it - this is not four times the salary of a Thai teacher LOL

Thanks for sharing, Phil!

Why would you want to engage in nanny-knows-best behavior, censoring the ads of some people? The market works - and why would this ad be successful?

But I have met some wealthy farang who love to dabble in teaching, paid or unpaid. They are out there and this might be a clever ad targeting them?

Ajarn.com | Teaching English in Thailand happens to be the #1 website for teaching jobs. Those good enough to command salaries in the stratosphere may look elsewhere. Me, I'm not even a native English speaker and have to go after the crumbs falling under the table. Thanks to Ajarn.com, I found a better job. Already got my B-Visa sorted. Phew, what a relief dealing with a competent administration!!

Phil makes it very clear how he feels about this ad. And those 200 Baht/hour jobs. It's clear that school isn't listening.

If schools were able to attract qualified NES, I wouldn't get a job. If they want to attract good teacher, they better improve what they have to offer!

Mel

**Bangkok Phil** · 7th May 2012 10:11

Originally Posted by eumel

But I have met some wealthy farang who love to dabble in teaching, paid or unpaid. They are out there and this might be a clever ad targeting them?

Good point. I've never really thought of it from that angle.

**keekwai** · 7th May 2012 10:15

Originally Posted by eumel

They are out there and this might be a clever ad targeting them?

I doubt it.

**8ball** · 7th May 2012 10:49

Originally Posted by eumel

Why would you want to put ur name at the end of every post u make?

Originally Posted by Bangkok Phil

Good point

**haltest** · 7th May 2012 11:37

Dabble in teaching? Why don't we dabble in being a lawyer or a dentist or a doctor, we could even dabble in being an electrician or plumber. Unfortunately to be competent in any career requires some natural ability and a lot of training / practice / qualifications etc.

The reason there are barriers to many careers / professions is an attempt to try and maintain some standards or quality for the general public who at a minimum cannot distinguish guru from charlatan. Teachers have a heavy burden of responsibly that not everyone is suited to or wants to shoulder; there are people teaching in Thailand (I will avoid calling them teachers) who are only doing it so they can prolong their stay here due to absence of opportunity for other work. IMHO, you don't need to be a native speaker in order to teach English (or any other subject) but you do need to know your subject and be able to communicate effectively.

Those who choose to "dabble" in teaching just for the hell of it or to alleviate the tedium of their lives (some of them) are doing great damage to their students and the reputation of teachers in Thailand generally. It's a shame that everyone thinks they can teach just because they were once at school, I once watched some very skilled guys plaster my living room ceiling but this does not mean that I could do it!