Hi I'm Ilse. I'm planning to go abroad to work as an teacher in English as a foreighn language. I'm a qualified and experianced teacher in Holland (elementry school) Is it even possible to find a teaching job if you're not a native speaker? Does anybody now how and where to find one?
^ Welcome, Ilse.
You should be fine in finding a teaching job if you're a qualified teacher and also your English is good (as is common for Dutch people). Where in Thailand do you want to work? Look on the main ajarn site, prepare your CV and do some walk-ins to schools. As you're qualified, you may be able to get on an EP (English Programme) offered at some of the better schools which would give you a higher salary. Good luck and enjoy yourself.
Reeds tien jaar.Originally Posted by Ilse Amsterdam
Oooooops. Already for ten years.
It is possible but of course native speakers are preferred. Especially since there are government incentives for schools if they hire NS; the amounts I hear vary, some say 10,000 THB per teacher per month, maybe someone can confirm the exact amount.
Yes, you can get a job. Your teaching credentials will go a long way if you want to work in elementary schools rather than language centers.
Yes, you NEED a TOEIC/TOEFL/IELTS score (since your passport is NOT from UK, USA, Can, Aus, NZ).
Yes, you will probably be paid less (I'd hazard a guess that it would be about 30% less than a native speaker)
Be sure to run a spell check over your cover letter and CV BEFORE you send them off. Yes, this an internet forum and spelling/grammar don't matter much but on your CV and cover letter they would get your application as far as the trash bin.
According to the Bangkok Post (about 2 or 3 weeks ago) it's 10k for native speakers and 5k for non natives.
Never heard that non-native bit.
This means that the NS will net the school 120K/year, the non-native speaker only 60K/year.
No matter if the non-native is more qualified, money counts!
Not really. 10,000 THB for instructors of English and 5,000 THB for instructors of other languages such as Chinese, Korean, etc.
This according to the Thai documents I got my hands on.
It's reported that the subsidy project only runs till September/ October 2012.
Native Chinese/Korean speakers?
Hi, Ilse. Me and my mother teach at the same school in Ayutthaya. We're from the Netherlands, too.
Our school needs female teachers for kindergarten and lower elementary levels. You do have the opportunity to get a teaching job here as a non-native English teacher, as long as you've got a bachelor's degree, your spoken English is close enough to that of a native speaker's, and you love teaching.
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The TOEIC really is no big thing. 1500 THB fee + 2 hours for the test. Easy going!
Regarding the salary, as a non-native speaker and without any teaching experience (just a Master's degree in Media Consulting) I got a 30k contract.
Btw. that clerk at the TOEIC center told me that there might come a new rule concerning native speakers soon. Not kidding, she seriously said that the Ministry plans to require TOEIC from NATIVE SPEAKERS too :-)
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Makes sense!
Hi, my name is John and I am from Greece. I'm 31 years old and I have a university degree at computer engineering. However, I have been teaching English for several years now - I started teaching as a way to pay for my college education, but I quickly realized that I liked teaching English much better than being a computer engineer, so I have been working as an English teacher for 10 years now.
Anyway, as you've probably heard, Greece is on the brink of declaring bankruptcy, so I started looking for job opportunities abroad, and I came across this site. I also came across a lot of job opportunities in China, and I would certainly appreciate it if someone could -honestly- tell me which country is the better place to go.
As a teacher, I have 10 years of experience, mostly with kids, but I am obviously not a native speaker of the language. Furthermore, I have a Proficiency diploma by Cambridge, which is good enough to make me a certified teacher in Greece, but I will probably have to take some more exams (?) in order to teach in China or Thailand.
Another important question is the salary, as I will be getting paid less money compared to a native English speaker. Will my salary be enough to live on? I live a frugal lifestyle, so I don't really care much about making loads of money, but I do care about making ends meet.
Language proficiency = TOEIC, TOEFL or IELTS test. Currently they are the only 3 accepted. Pick one.
Wages = 22,000 thb to 30,000 THB would be in the ballpark (English speaking Filipinos with BA/B.Ed get 15-18k and with a completed masters 20-25k).
IF you are good at what you do you may be able to get more or get more work after you have been here for a while and you gain a reputation.
Is it enough to live on = yes BUT you won't be clubbing, spending your weekends on the beach and living the life of a tourist or expat executive or even saving anything. It will be a month to month existence with few frills, no benefits and no backup if things go wrong for you.
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I agree. A lot of native speakers have fairly bad Engish skills, even ones that have college degrees. I worked with a freind as a GTA for an academic writing class and many of our ESL/EFL students' papers were better than some of our "native" speakers. Another freind of mine who is a 30+ year English professor and is a certified, and active. TOEFL grader even said that some of the NES grad student's in her dissertation writing classes would have prolems "passing" the TOEFL to get admitted.
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