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    PGCE Possibilities

    I am all Tefled out, more or less.

    I would appreciate some guidance on PGCE with respect to international schools in Thailand.

    I teach EAP at a university in the UK but can't see myself doing that in the future (except through gritted teeth). EFL in Thailand pays too little; been there, done that.

    I am thinking to do a PGCE in R.E. in England with a view to sunning myself in Land of Smiles.

    Pointers please ...

    ---Update---

    Is it right that you HAVE TO teach 2-3 years in the UK before the schools in Bangkok will touch you? I don't think I want to teach and live in the UK; the conservative framework of the English schools together with the somewhat dreary landscape (weather, etc.) would get me down. I could live in England if I had a stimulating job but otherwise, no.

    ---Update---

    Teaching R.E., Philosophy and/ or History is what I would hope to do.

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    I take it that you want to teach secondary? You have to ask yourself if there is a demand for secondary RE/Philosophy teachers in Thailand.

    I have just finished my PGCE in Primary in the UK. I will stay in the UK to do my NQT year and then may head abroad.

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    if the whole point in doing a pgce is to come to work here, then rethink the subject.

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    I was fearing I might get answers along these lines.

    None of the schools offer R.E.? I did have my doubts about this and was going to make enquiries directly with the schools.

    It has to be Secondary. I'm not interested in Primary.

    I don't fancy qualifying in anything else and would in fact struggle to get on to a course in other subject specialisms. My first degree is in Modern Languages and I am having to do some RS modules by DL.

    Can you expand on what you've said?

    ---Update---

    Thanks for the responses so far, by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exprat View Post
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    If you pursue a teaching job in Thailand a PGCE will exempt you from the TCT PKT but you still have to do the TLCEC. Before you're granted one you will have no problems in getting the TCT PTP. Don't forget that also ISs that want to comply with the OBECs regulations, as dep. of the MOE, for accreditation reasons need their teachers to have the TCT TL.

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    Enough with the BS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by exprat View Post
    Enough with the BS!
    Who started?

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    I'd like to hear from someone who has worked in an international school.

    ---Update---

    Although any and all advice is gratefully acknowledged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exprat View Post
    Although any and all advice is gratefully acknowledged.
    go home get accredited to teach secondary school and teach there for a couple of years. While you are doing that, build contacts and apply for a job at 'real' international schools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exprat View Post
    I'd like to hear from someone who has worked in an international school.
    Wrong place....

    I do have friends that have taught in international schools, and it's a path that I've investigated myself, and your information is correct, a minimum of 2-3 years teaching experience in the home country after certification.
    A couple other things to consider. You're not the first to think of this so there is a glut of ex-TEFLers with teaching certs from their home countries. So you'll need to stand out from a big pack. Math and Science teachers especially and other specialisations are in high demand.
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    Go for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exprat View Post
    Is it right that you HAVE TO teach 2-3 years in the UK before the schools in Bangkok will touch you?
    No, you don't HAVE TO have had 2 or 3 years post-PGCE teaching experience in the UK, but it's very strongly advisable indeed (to put it mildly) if you're looking above the level of 2nd-rate int. schools to teach in. That's about the best guidance you'll get on that particular issue.
    Agree with the others - not many positions available for RE/RS teachers in int. schools in Thailand that I've seen or heard of. Can you teach anything else apart from Philosophy and History?

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    To get a good job at a respectable international school you should count on needing the minimum of PGCE and NQT but here's what a friend told me (she's an international school teacher):

    those 'basic requirements' that we hear so much about are quite flexible and it depends far more on whether or not your in the right place, with the right skills, at the right time and if your face fits with the school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getorfmoiland View Post
    To get a good job at a respectable international school you should count on needing the minimum of PGCE
    And having unique characteristics as the competition is harsh.

    I heard of 70 or so highly qualified and certified teachers applying for a single International School vacancy.

    And hey, who doesn't want to work in Thailand for +100,000 THB per month?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stamp View Post
    I heard of 70 or so highly qualified and certified teachers applying for a single International School vacancy.
    and about 500 less qualified and uncertified teachers..

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