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    Quote Originally Posted by William money View Post
    Perhaps it could have something to do with having an education?....
    Only if you allowed your education to stifle your imagination, creativity and your ability to think critically...wait a minute...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LDMA View Post
    If the Irish are being considered for downgrading, surely, the Scottish will be next...
    And so they should be.

    How discriminating against English teachers with unintelligible accents is "Racist" is beyond me though.

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    Just to clarify...for the more stupid.....The northern Irish are still considered as "native" by the Thais...only the ones south of the border will be considered 2nd class...Thank you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplesmoker View Post
    I am working with a south african who really sounds dutch
    Maybe because the Dutch basically colonised the place? (Dutch East India Company etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by William money View Post
    Just to clarify...for the more stupid.....The northern Irish are still considered as "native" by the Thais...only the ones south of the border will be considered 2nd class...Thank you...
    Yes, the northern Irish still travel on UK passports while their brethren to the south do not.

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    A Belfastian speaks...could this be the worst "native" accent?.....

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    What about the Zimmies? they used to be on the list, worked with 2 cool ones.
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    Is this happening because of something in particular? Is this just a way of lowering costs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timteach View Post
    Is this happening because of something in particular?
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrambled Thai Thoughts
    ASEAN !! .. Save face!! ... Get rid of unintelligible riffraff ... Improve English levels!! ... Panic!!!
    Nothing in particular ... just the scrmbled thoughts of Thai officials above

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    Native English is overrated - there are more non-native speakers on this planet than native speakers, so what's the big deal?

    No Thai will ever sound like a native speaker, no matter if the teacher is from the above mentioned countries or not.

    I worked with some Brits I couldn't understand, especially if they were from the north. Australians are terrible, too.

    Several students told me that Americans are most easy to understand. I spent ten years on the left coast and sound like one, but am classified as a non-native.

    ---Update---

    One fellow teacher from England was talking about a "puh-ll" and when I asked her she explained that a "puh-ll" is "wo-uh" on the floor...

    At another school I worked with a Scot and a Canadian and a Thai teacher told me that he could understand me but not the others; I was the only non-native speaker.

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    ^I hope you feel better now that's off your chest, dingo. Thank goodness you were lucky enough not to have been born a native English speaker, eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dingoman13 View Post
    there are more non-native speakers on this planet than native speakers
    There are more backyard mechanics than qualified ones too. I'm still taking my motorbike to a qualified one though.


    Quote Originally Posted by dingoman13 View Post
    so what's the big deal?
    The Thai propensity to do everything for show.


    Quote Originally Posted by dingoman13 View Post
    Australians are terrible, too.
    Just the poorly educated whore mongering ockers who wear stubbies and blue singlets ...


    Quote Originally Posted by dingoman13 View Post
    One fellow teacher from England was talking about a "puh-ll" and when I asked her she explained that a "puh-ll" is "wo-uh" on the floor...
    You've lost me.


    Quote Originally Posted by dingoman13 View Post
    Thai teacher told me that he could understand me but not the others
    Thai "KrengJai" at work.

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    I'm South African and I was told on numerous occasions that I have a very clear accent. I was also on one occasion told by a Filipino colleague that she found me very easy to understand, but struggled to understand my colleagues from England and NZ.

    Unfortunately there are many of these "Dutch-sounding" South Africans (known as Afrikaners back home) flooding into Thailand (most of them without degrees) and this, I think, had a lot to do with our country being downgraded. There are, however, many of us who speak the Queen's English better than many Brits do and find it a bit hard to swallow that we are now seen as inferior to some of the ridiculously accented countries that are still on the list.

    Well, that's my two cents. I actually have a question for anyone who might be in the know. I received my work permit in December 2011 (without having to do the TOEIC test) and now my renewal date is coming up (I'm still with the same employer). I would like to know if I will now need to pass the TOEIC test before they will renew my work permit? Since I got my work permit before the new requirements came into effect I would like to think that it wouldn't be necessary, but this is Thailand so I'm not quite sure...

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    ^ Good points. Thinking outside the box, eh? There's hope for us all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttompatz View Post
    Yes, the northern Irish still travel on UK passports while their brethren to the south do not.
    That's actually wrong. Northern Irish can choose to have an Irish passport or British passport or both. Most of my Northern Irish friends, travel on an Irish passport.

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