Is it true? Thailand now wants fresh college grads over Experienced teachers!?!?!
Is it true that most schools in Thailand will hire a fresh college graduate with no experience OVER someone with several years experience? I ask this as an experienced teacher who is planning on coming to Thailand in January to teach. I am afraid once I get there I won't find a decent paying job (30-40+ baht) in Bangkok because young graduates are getting them all. I just hope Thailand cares about it's quality of teaching enough to still look for experience over cheaper wages. I do understand that schools are businesses and they are run as such, but tell me, please, that I have a decent shot of landing something good there with 8 years experience under my belt?
Any advice is greatly appreciated!
Chris
News to me, Chris.
It would make sense (of some sort) for many schools but they are generally going through the motions anyway.
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Originally Posted by HerrDean
Okay, cheap shots at typos aside, even with no experience in the Thai TEFL world, it's pretty obvious to me that the country isn't exactly concerned about high quality, so of course they're going to go for the cheapest option available. Plus, younger teachers look better, and Asians care more about appearance than substance.
You want me to tell you that you have a decent shot of landing something good? Ok, you have a decent shot at landing something good. You asked me to tell you.
Anyways, with your experience, they may feel like they have to pay you more, which may rule you out if it were between you and a fresh grad.
Also, wiith your experience, it probably means that you are not a young handsome man anymore, which is really what matters.
For example, my school got rid of the old and not attractive teachers and have kept and hired the young and "hansome" teachers.
"Thailand is way past the days of tuna, pineapples, and bargirls." - Sharky
Profound! Just take all your teaching questions to toac.
Of course, any management in any country would take young over old. The right amount of experience is the right amount .. enough that you don't need to be trained, enough that you won't make stupid newbee mistakes, not so much you're jaded or set in your ways.
...this is not a decent wage for bkk...this is a street-cart, 7-11, shoebox-living, Leo-drinking wage...
...what have you read on these pages that would suggest such a notion?...
...if by good, you mean fitted into a sweaty, frustrating harness: you have no worries...you're in!
...majestically enthroned amid the vulgar herd...
Oi, nothing wrong with sevens and street carts, two of the things I miss the most.
To Thinkingofchange --> My apologies for using the improper usage of "its" (possessive) over "it's" (it is). Lol. I was thinking about the topic and didn't take a moment to edit. As a former journalist and language instructor, I do appreciate the critique!
To Nokyah --> "handsome" with a "d"
Back to the topic at hand...
In regards to the highly superficial concept of "beating out the competition" with my looks, I can only say... * PHEW * I guess being a former German teacher with stereotypical looks (tall, athletic, blonde hair/blue eyes) may finally pay off! That is, however, quite disheartening to think a younger, more attractive teacher with less experience could beat out someone older and unattractive in Thailand. Sounds pretty fishy and sketchy to say the least. This is coming from someone in the United States, where superficiality is our specialty. I can't think of any teacher who landed his or her job here based on youth and physical prowess, that's for sure. Crazy concept, unless I was applying for a job at Gold's Gym!
p.s. My profile picture on here can't be all that hideous, I hope!
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Last edited by HerrDean; 21st August 2012 at 21:47. Reason: delete pictures
Please. Don't.
Security reasons. For our own good, mate. Trust me.
Look - your immediate problem is to get to Thailand. You know very well that the Metropolitan Police have surrounded the embassy and that you have created quite a 'spat' between Quito and London that is spreading to other South American countries.
In the meantime, access some on-line TEFL resources.
Anna - great material. Jimmy Kimmel called and wants to use it!
Really.
Anyway, the problem I have isn't getting TEFL resources. They are everywhere. It's deciding on completing certification on-line for less money or spend more and do it in Thailand.
Does it really matter?
In a word...............no.
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There's nobody on this forum who can answer a question on what most Thai schools will do. What constitutes most, 51%+, 99.9%? We're just a bunch of lonely blowhards yearning to be read and quoted.
Plus there are too many variables. A phat ugly Canadian pisshead with any amount of experience would be nixed over a nice young Brit girlie with no experience. They will want to do the best they can. After all it's a seller's market.
An EP's worth is, in many ways, their farang staff and how they're perceived by those who pay the kid's tuition.
Sometimes universities like highly experienced teachers.
To HerrDean --> "NokYai" with an "i"
BTW, the word, "handsome" is pronounced, "hansome" by the locals, which is why I quoted it without the "d."
You should probably visit Thailand and get to know the country before you decide to live and teach here. Hangover 2 doesn't count.
Last time I checked, "hansome" and "handsome" sounds the same in both since the "d" is silent in English. lol
No.
have degree = check
have a US passport = check
have a willingness to travel = check
have a willingness to work abroad = check
have ticket = no.... Guess you won't be working in Thailand.
Get off of the keyboard and onto a plane.
October or April. Pick one for work on the ground. Chances of work in a k-12 school = 100%.
After you figure out which way is up and have made some connections (it really is all about the networking; who you know and more importantly, who knows you) MOVE ON TO BETTER THINGS.
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