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    degree for non native English teachers

    Hello,

    I am a Belgian citizen and dream of teaching in Asia.

    Because i am not a native English speaker and do not have a degree i know it is legally impossible.

    So next week i will enroll college, aiming for a Bachelor in education ( English and Economics).

    Would this degree be sufficient to qualify for a teaching position? Even if i am not for an English speaking country? ( I speak Dutch so i dont have a bad accent.)

    Is it correct that the law has changed and that a degree in Education is necessary now?

    I ask this because if a degree in Education is not needed i would study Sociology..


    Thank you for your help!

    Merijn

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    When you want to work legally in basic education in Thailand, a degree is necessary.

    A degree in education makes you eligible for a teacher license from the Teachers' Council of Thailand. Holders of other degrees have to sit the TCT Professional Knowledge Tests.

    Search on this forum for more info on teacher license topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stamp View Post
    Search on this forum for more info on teacher license topics.
    have you tried using the search function of af stamp? it doesn't work

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    The 'laws' will all be different by the time you've finished any way so not to worry.

    One thing will still be the same though.

    None of the laws will matter depending on your employer... immigration officer... the day of the week etc etc.
    Guy Manpoof sux nuts for $$.

    Tomcat trained. Satisfaction guaranteed.

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    sound like fun.....aiaiaiai

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    A degree in Education is NOT required. I'm a non-native speaker with a Master's in Media Consulting and got the work permit and 2 year teacher's license anyway
    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rambutan View Post
    Because i am not a native English speaker and do not have a degree i know it is legally impossible.
    for mainstream education, correct. for other areas of teaching, not necessarily.

    Quote Originally Posted by rambutan View Post
    Is it correct that the law has changed and that a degree in Education is necessary now?
    only if you'd like to be excluded from the TCT's PKTs.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Perfect Present View Post
    The 'laws' will all be different by the time you've finished any way so not to worry.
    a gross exaggeration.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Perfect Present View Post
    One thing will still be the same though.

    None of the laws will matter depending on your employer... immigration officer... the day of the week etc etc.
    another exaggeration. yes, you might find work but unless you have the proper quals, you're always going to be at the mercy of your employer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chang Mekong View Post
    I'm a non-native speaker with a Master's in Media Consulting and got the work permit and 2 year teacher's license anyway
    when was this? did you do it without taking the PKTs? i assume by "2 year teacher's license" you actually mean the "2-year provisional teaching license". am i correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chang Mekong View Post
    A degree in Education is NOT required. I'm a non-native speaker with a Master's in Media Consulting and got the work permit and 2 year teacher's license anyway
    In this discussion nobody said that a education degree was required. A degree in other fields is.

    However, if you want to acquire a teacher license from The Teachers' Council of Thailand you must have a degree in education or equivalent.

    Teaching License Requirements
    Qualifications
    Foreigners who want to apply for a teaching license shall have the following qualifications:
    1. Be at least 20 years of age
    2. Hold a degree in Education or an equivalent or in other related fields accredited by the Teachers Council of Thailand
    3. Not Possess any of the prohibited characteristics pursuant to section 44 of the Teachers
    and Educational Personnel Council Act B.E. 2003
    4. Possess the professional standards of knowledge and experience.
    http://www.ksp.or.th/Khurusapha/en/d...equirement.pdf

    By the way, your 2 year teacher license can't have been issued by The Teachers' Council of Thailand. They only issue teacher licenses valid for 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stamp View Post
    ...nagnag...

    By the way, your 2 year teacher license can't have been issued by The Teachers' Council of Thailand. They only issue teacher licenses valid for 5 years.
    You might not like it but as a matter of fact my Teachers' License (issued by The Teachers' Council of Thailand) IS valid for 2 years.

    Btw when it comes to laws/rules/regulations Thailand can be a disturbing place for pedants


    @Crew, that was this year, without taking the PKT. Yes, it's a provisional teaching license.
    Last edited by Chang Mekong; 12th September 2012 at 19:37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chang Mekong View Post
    You might not like it but as a matter of fact my Teachers' License (issued by The Teachers' Council of Thailand) IS valid for 2 years.
    You may not like it but you don't have a teacher license. You have a provisional teaching permit often called waiver.

    หลักเกณฑ์การพิจารณาอนุญาตให้ชาวต่างประเทศประกอบวิช าชีพครูโดยไม่มีใบอนุญาตประกอบวิชาชีพ
    Requirement for Issuance of a Teaching Permit to Foreign Teachers Without the License
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    กรอบการพิจารณา
    ๑. อายุไม่ต่ำกว่า ๒๐ ปี
    ๒. คุณวุฒิไม่ต่ำกว่าปริญญาตรี และเป็นสาขาที่เป็นประโยชน์ต่อการศึกษา ที่ได้รับการรับรองจากคุรุสภา หรือ ก.ค.ศ. หรือ ก.พ. หรือปรากฏข้อมูลระบุในหนังสือ The World of ALMANAC (ท่านสามารถตรวจสอบ การรับรองคุณวุฒิได้ที่ KHURUSAPHA :: ??????? ??????????????????????????? หมวดใบอนุญาตประกอบวิชาชีพ หัวข้อ การตรวจสอบคุณวุฒิของ ครูชาวต่างประเทศ หรือ เว็บไซต์ของ ก.ค.ศ. /ก.พ.)
    ๓. มีความสามารถหรือชำนาญการเฉพาะ และมีความจำเป็นต้องใช้ชาวต่างประเทศ สอนในหลักสูตรที่ต้องใช้ภาษาต่างประเทศ
    ๔. ต้องผ่านการทดสอบภาษาอังกฤษ TOEIC (ยกเว้นประเทศที่ใช้ภาษาอังกฤษเป็นภาษาแม่ ได้แก่สหราชอาณาจักรบริเตนใหญ่และไอร์แลนด์เหนื อ ไอร์แลนด์ สหรัฐอเมริกา เครือรัฐออสเตรเลีย นิวซีแลนด์ และ แคนาดา) หรือผ่านการทดสอบการใช้ภาษานั้น ๆ
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    Requirements
    1. Must not be less than 20 years of age.
    2. Hold a Bachelor’s degree which benefits education, and it must be certified by either the Teachers’ Council of Thailand (TCT) or the Teacher Civil Service and Educational Personnel Commission (TEPC) or the Civil Service Commission (CSC) or shown in the list at The World of ALMANAC (the applicant may check your degree certification at KHURUSAPHA :: ??????? ??????????????????????????? by selecting
    “professional license section, foreign teacher’s qualification check” or at the website of TEPC or CSC).
    3. Having specific skills, abilities and knowledge needed for foreign teachers in the teaching and learning of foreign language curriculum.
    4. TOEIC certified score report (except those who come from a native-English speaking countries: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Ireland, The United States of America, Commonwealth of Australia, New Zealand and Canada) or passing score on the other foreign language proficiency test.
    http://www.ksp.or.th/Khurusapha/en/u...equirement.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chang Mekong View Post
    @Crew, that was this year, without taking the PKT. Yes, it's a provisional teaching license.
    calling a provisional teaching license a a license to teach is like calling a driving permit a license to drive. good luck with the TCT's PKTs, you will have to take them. and not in two years either...

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