You still get paid - - - recent very late cancellations of a Thai teacher as a student resulted in me getting 0 Baht for no shows. That's worse!
Q: Is such behavior prevailing? What do your colleagues say? Last year, I had a M5 class with many no shows. the students were at the school but wouldn't bother to come to the split English classes. Neither my colleague nor me could get a handle on this. Some simply can't be bothered to make an effort...
Do your best and collect that pay check
Chris
Exactly. You need to ensure that your new policy will actually be enforced WB otherwise they'll just smile even more sweetly at you..Originally Posted by Stamp
Try not to be a complete knob all your life, MM.
A major problem for Thais is that they don't understand the concept of consequence.
Like Sesame Street: What happens when...?
Lock the door at the start of class.
---Update---
^ Now that I've read the entire thread ... strike that.
Gee, if I locked the door on my late students they'd just leave. Soon admin would be bitching at me for preventing them from attending class.
Best to let them in (after making them wai and apologize), then make them stand for the entire class, or have them clean the classroom. Also good idea to reward students who are on time - candy, extra points, letting them leave early.
"There's a beverage here man!"
This is not a joke.
A whole society is growing up without the benefit of experiencing cause/effect.
THEN: If it didn't rain, your grandparents starved.
But mai bpen rai, we helped each other.
NOW: If you're lazy, blame the teacher.
But mai bpen rai, because Mr Mister and his ilk will also blame the teacher.
There are few problems in life that cannot be solved with toast.
One of them, however, is opening a can of corned beef with that stupid key. This cannot easily be done at the best of times, and toast is of surprisingly little use in resolving the issue.
Thai culture 101.
Give an inch, they take a mile.
And probably consider you stupid for doing so in the first place.
Guy Manpoof sux nuts for $$.
Tomcat trained. Satisfaction guaranteed.
Reminds me when I studied karate in Japan. If you were late you had to sit close to the entrance and wait.
If they sensei deemed your late ass worthy, he would give you a nod after ten minutes or so.
If you were late repeatedly, he would ignore you. So you risked sitting the entire session without participating.
It worked!
...^that assumes you were eager to attend class...
...majestically enthroned amid the vulgar herd...
Ok, I have an idea. One of the Thai teachers in my school is doing this for the students that litter. A fee for all those who are late. Let's say 1 THB/minute.
You can make one of those nice donation boxes, so the other teachers or the students will not feel like you're robbing the students. Also you can tell everyone that you will use the money to buy something for the school, to help you teach. At the end of the day only you will know how much you have in there, so... in a month you could change your motorbike, I guess
... but don't forget to buy some books or DVD for the school from time to time hehehe what do you think?! Will it work?
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Err... Sorry to be "off topic", but I've got some advice relating to the OP if that's okay...
Firstly, it depends on what type of uni you're teaching at. If you're teaching at one if the top end government unis, then you can do whatever you want. Coz those places are educational institutes. If you're teaching at a private uni or a regular uni, on the other hand, then it's a completely different ball game. Coz these places aren't really educational institutes, but rather... businesses. And we all know how the customer (or student) is always right! Secondly, but more importantly, it depends on your boss. If you get a shit load of complaints from your students, will your boss defend your ass or will they use you as an escape goat.
In the past I've tried penalizing students for being late and also getting permission from my superior for doing so. But when I started getting student complaints, especially when students started complaining to people higher up than my boss, then I suddenly because the escape goat for my boss and everything was my fault. TIT eh!
Nowadays, I don't give a freckle anymore. If everyone turns up to class 30min late, hey, that's more time for me to surf the Internet and play solitaire. Why stress over it? If some students don't want to turn up to class, that's completely fine with me. I just give them zero points for attendance. Why stress over it? If they miss their exam, that's completely fine with me as well. I'll just give them zero for their exam. Why stress over it?
I teach English because I enjoy my job. Not because I like stress.
Here's a fact for you: If you're too strict with punctuality, your students will hate you for it.
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We could all sit outside on banana lounges discussing the best way to rebuild a 4WD transmission and agree, through shared stories of conquests supporting our assertions, that there is no basis to the proposition that those least assured of their persuasions are the first to condemn others for theirs.
One other thing--when I taught university, I never paid attention to tardiness; it wasn't my problem, since the students were the ones paying for the education. Of course, those who were late tended to do poorly--and learned to regret being late when they failed.
Do you think this approach would work in Thailand?
Oh Lord, not again.
If they're late to class it's for the same reason a dog licks them.
There is one tiny flaw in your argument - do you think that payment exempts you from turning up on time and gives you a pass? If so, can I introduce you to the idea of private schools - should we give those school/primary school students a free pass as well, just because they pay for their education...
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