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    Quote Originally Posted by natalie8 View Post
    I have horrendous handwriting so I would only print words on the whiteboard, but this was only if I really had to.
    If printing means all capitals, I'd avoid that approach, as proper nouns should be part of the learning. I use the word if, because it is possible to 'print' lower case letters. Each letter should be separate anyway, so practicing your alphabet as separate letters could be the way forward. You should also find out the worst letters for you and you could consider a different technique with those letters. However it's how the letter ends, not how it begins, that is important.


    Quote Originally Posted by natalie8 View Post
    Leave it to the Thai teachers to deal with the writing
    If you agree with that statement, I'd advice against teaching. If you take full ownership of your students, the feelgood factor and rewards will far exceed the feeling of 'Well I've done my bit'

    ---Update---

    Quote Originally Posted by Fleabag View Post
    Teaching handwriting is something I am expected - and want - to do because I'm currently teaching P1s and P3s, two crucial grades for handwriting, as far as I'm concerned.
    If you are think along these lines, and I suspect you are, then a solution will just be around the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mister View Post
    If printing means all capitals, I'd avoid that approach
    I think they mean "non italicised" writing or "running writing"

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    Quote Originally Posted by keekwai View Post
    I think they mean "non italicised" writing or "running writing"
    Read on Keek, the if clause is there. But I can assure you there are a few teachers out there who PRINT ALL THEIR WORDS, and would regard it as printing. But the only person who can give clarity is the author.

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    I saw the "if" ... and presented the alternative.

    I don't know about other places, but in Oz, we call this printing ... because it looks like "print" in a book or newspaper ... or any non handwritten media.


    ... and this "italicised" or "running" writing ....


    "Printing" is easier to read. It's the method I use on the white board.
    Last edited by keekwai; 9th October 2012 at 12:03.

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    In America what you refer to as "running" is called "cursive". We (my generation) all had to learn it in addition to regular printing, but I don't think anyone my age (twenties) even uses it anymore. A lot of older folks use it (it's the only way my parents can seem to write; my fathers handwriting is virtually illegible). I wonder if they even teach it to youngsters anymore? I doubt it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mister View Post
    If printing means all capitals,
    Is this what you think? Interesting...

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    I'd advice against teaching
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    If you agree with that statement, I'd advice against teaching.
    But then you come on here and barrage posters and say that nobody should teach except you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by natalie8 View Post
    Is this what you think? Interesting
    Well given that printing lower case letters would be difficult for someone with a handwriting problem, yes it did occur to me that you were suggesting the use of all capital letters. Add to that other teachers who use the term 'printing' for using all capitals on the board. Either way, I was using your post as a springboard for my own opinion. Any offense taken would have been self driven.


    Quote Originally Posted by natalie8 View Post
    But then you come on here and barrage posters and say that nobody should teach except you.
    Clearly, highlighting a simple predictive text error(I often fat fingerdly write advide and it corrects it to advice) is showing your trolling qualities at their best. I actually thought that wasn't allowed, but I have no desire to get involved in your childish games.

    My post, with regards to your comment, was geared towards attitude, not ability. No matter how good someone was, if they didn't have the right attitude, I would advise against them teaching or anyone being taught by them.

    Because I don't deem you to be a model teacher(didn't actually know you taught) doesn't mean there aren't others who share my attitude.

    Please take your trolling somewhere else. I hope the OP is mature enough to take the message from my post and not be swayed by your hatred of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis View Post
    I wonder if they even teach it to youngsters anymore? I doubt it...
    Such a shame if they don't.

    Here's an article I read just the other day that some may find interesting.

    Philip Hensher: Why handwriting matters | Books | The Observer


    Those other writing apparatuses, mobile phones, occupy a little bit more of the same psychological space as the pen. Ten years ago, people kept their mobile phone in their pockets. Now, they hold them permanently in their hand like a small angry animal, gazing crossly into our faces, in apparent need of constant placation. Clearly, people do regard their mobile phones as, in some degree, an extension of themselves. And yet we have not evolved any of those small, pleasurable pieces of behaviour towards them that seem so ordinary in the case of our pens. If you saw someone sucking one while they thought of the next phrase to text, you would think them dangerously insane.

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    This track from Arcade Fire expresses a similar sentiment:

    We Used To Wait ARCADE FIRE OFFICIAL SINGLE - YouTube

    I agree handwriting is important. I'm not sure if "cursive" is useful. Although I guess even if one abandons its use later, the act of learning it can improve a child's penmanmanship, no?

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    Love that Arcade Fire track.

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    Exactly what would be the point of teaching cursive these days. In their computer class are you going to teach them DOS? Print your words (Mrx2 that means upper and lower case). It's so much easier for the students to read

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    Quote Originally Posted by BerryGoose View Post
    Exactly what would be the point of teaching cursive these days
    Thank you notes; letters upon a bereavement (or a lighter occasion, such as a graduation or a birth); acknowledgements of invitations and so on...

    Just a few examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan Jones View Post
    Thank you notes; letters upon a bereavement (or a lighter occasion, such as a graduation or a birth); acknowledgements of invitations and so on...

    Just a few examples.
    Sorry, I still say it's out dated. People in general don't use handwriting. Mind you I'm now saying handwriting is bad, just that it's pretty much unused these days in the real world. Then add the fact that most people's handwriting is unreadable is a great reason to put it in the closet with those 70's platform shoes you still have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BerryGoose View Post
    Then add the fact that most people's handwriting is unreadable is a great reason to put it in the closet with those 70's platform shoes you still have.
    I shall bow to your superior knowledge then.

    Thank goodness for you, eh?

    ---Update---

    Quote Originally Posted by BerryGoose View Post
    put it in the closet with those 70's platform shoes you still have
    That's where you went wrong. You wouldn't have handwritten that. Fuck the smiley face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan Jones View Post
    Thank you notes; letters upon a bereavement (or a lighter occasion, such as a graduation or a birth); acknowledgements of invitations and so on...

    Just a few examples.
    A major selling point in the 'tablet' wars is the ability to, on some, use your handwriting. So much so, they are investing a lot of money on new things, such as the ipen.

    iPen, the active stylus for iPad! - YouTube

    So even ecards can have the personal touch from the sender. I believe that most people would rather hand write a message on a birthday or valentine's card, than print it.

    Taking that aside, at this point, the ability to use handwriting on a board is an essential part of my lessons, and I suspect it still is for many more teachers here and in the field.

    One additional point I would make, although I'm a fairly neat writer, my writing standard is dependent on the pen, and that is also the case with marker pens. I would urge the OP to mess around with different markers, it can make a significant difference. I find it difficult to use most 'Horse' markers. If you have to use chalk, giving the chalk a point may help. Be careful not to make it too thin, but it does assist in achieving a higher standard.

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