Hello-
Is there any general consensus among teachers that a university position is usually preferable to an E.P. position or vice versa? I know the teaching hours, on-site hours, pay, and atmosphere are usually different, but is one generally preferred to the other?
Or put another way, which do people here prefer personally, and for what reasons?
Thanks for any insight.
-Buoyant
Last edited by Buoyant; 14th October 2012 at 21:15.
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A piece of shit is definitely shorter than either....Originally Posted by jonny danger
Perhaps it's a newbie question by a newbie poster on a new and improved forum, therefore deserving of our newly developed resolve to answer such questions with candor, dignity and honestly.
EP pays better, but you don't get to look up the skirts of young, nubile university girls exploring their sexuality for the first times in their lives.
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How do you figure an EP pays better? What EP .. what uni? I went from a uni at 30K a month for 15 contact hours to an EP at 32K a month with 20 contact hours. Does working for a stupid admin vs. a good one factor in there? How about Ss disconnecting your motorcai's brake cable or puncturing your tyres? Or whining to their parents because you gave them a bad grade? Is that worth the extra pay?
^^JD, this is a newbie and I reckon we should give the benefit of the doubt.
To answer the OP, I prefer uni, but that is a personal choice because I ain't in it for the money (I know, it is all about the love...). There are challenges at my uni, but, in general, it is a great place to work, even at a gvt salary.
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The number of posts doesn't make you knowledgeable about the topic Mr. Danger. History has proven that repeatedly in your case.
What kind of school do you teach at in Thailand and why?
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I work the Thai side of the curriculum for the upper 40's at 18 hours/week but the EP teachers at my school make between 50 and 60K for 20/week. They don't get the time off I get though, so it balances out.
The Thai uni teachers make either 24K with a 6K housing allowance or 26K with a 4K housing allowance, but they teach anywhere from 12-16 hours/week with I think a requirement of 4 office hours/week.
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Much like you claim to know what you're talking about, sir.
Much longer than you, that's for sure, Mr. Dangerman.
If you peruse Ajarn.com job ads, it's been unchanged now for almost a decade. What HAS changed is the rates for teaching extra hours/weekends for uni teachers. I know uni teachers teaching English that make 1200-1500/hr on the weekends lecturing to grad students and lecturers in other languages (French/Spanish) making anywhere from 2500-3000/hr. It's something you've got to work up to though and the higher paying weekend teaching gigs go to the teachers with the most time in, meaning you might have to survive a couple of years on peanuts before you get to the filet mignon.
But you're the expert. Why don't you let us know, from your recent experiences teaching in Thailand, what the current rates are, sir?
Peasants....
You've gotta start somewheres.
So you know I don't have resent experiences but you've just signed up. And you think Rajabhat still pays 24K? The ajarn.com jobs ads are far from an indicator of what uni jobs pay. Have you ever seen Chula/Tammsat gigs listed there? Please post your salary again just to make sure we all read it and can hold you in the highest esteem.
Sorry, missed this.
Most government schools with an EP have the opposite of an EP, a Thai curriculum program that have English teachers as well (basic government school teachers). The difference is I teach 18 different classes, do grades/tests, etc for classes of 40-50 students, vice the EP teachers that have to do basically the same thing, for more money, but have tons more paperwork, but lower class sizes (~20 students) and have about a month substantially less time off every year than I do.
What percentage of foreigners teach at universities other than Chula/Thammasart and how many of those post on this forum asking questions?
I guess that's it!!!!!! I must know you from your illustrious past rather than being able to judge a has been by his posts on a single thread.
I did ask where you taught and why, Mr. Danger. It was you that said you didn't have any recent experience, yet you presume to comment on a thread with others that have that experience, deriding their in country knowledge and experience with your obviously superior information.
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So once we leave Thailand we can erase everything we know about the place? After all it's such a dynamic society.
Personally I wouldn't know if I'd prefer an EP over a uni until I'd worked at all of them. Obviously some unis are better and some EPs are better. A better question is what age group do you prefer. And too there are other options to unis and EPs. The job I enjoyed best wasn't an EP or a uni, it was a private K-P-6, 55 students per class, no AC, 6 hours a day, 24K a month.
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