Thread: TeflWatch.Org

Originally Posted by enjoy

As I pointed out in my previous post, I believe it's called a life's lesson, live and learn. If you are abused, in any way shape or form, by a school treat it as a Life’s Lesson. These can happen anywhere, not only can they be at your place of work but it can involve your family or friends, whoever, wherever.
I believe like attracts like and what goes around comes around. It's my belief that we basically create our own mess and therefore we should deal with it instead of bleating on about it and holding grudges. Learn from your mistakes and move on. The choices you make, as to who you work for and what you do, are all your own, there’s nobody to blame except yourself. If you want to point the finger point it at yourself. People who cannot accept this will continue to create mess in their lives until they learn their lesson.

Originally Posted by enjoy

Lived in Thailand for 4 years and I've been teaching for 2 years. In that time I've had one day off sick and I've never been late for a class.

Originally Posted by Bangkok Phil

I like much of what I read in the above post by Enjoy and it had me nodding furiously in agreement.

Condescending lecturing fucker though, isn't he?

I believe like attracts like and what goes around comes around. It's my belief that we basically create our own mess and therefore we should deal with it instead of bleating on about it and holding grudges.

Get the fuck outa here.

And what about warning others about falling into the same trap you got caught in?

He explains that: It's all about your Karma. You see God sets these traps for us. If we fall in we should consider ourselves hapless goats. Now if we were to ruin God's little plan by telling others to watch out we'd be stomping all over His fun.

No No No. You can tell and warn, no problem. But another scenario will be created anyway so really there is no need to bother. Ever watch Final Destination? What is planned is planned and there is fuck all you can do about it. But that is my belief and each to their own. Obviously JD has a different perspective and that's up to him. But of course he will be one of the whinging teachers complaining about how life has treated him and how fruiting useless Thais are etc etc etc.

I think it is very easy to appear condescending to someone like ET.

If you behave in a professional manner I think you will have very few problems working in Thailand. On the other hand if your a complete arse and your head is up there too then I think you might find a few problems.

Originally Posted by enjoy

Originally Posted by Lifesnotsobad

Maybe enjoy lives in another country than Thailand. Maybe he just got lucky. Countless qualified teachers come to Thailand every year and get shafted with ten and eleven month contracts. Countless farang TEFLers are lied to, much more often than employers back home would lie to them.

Every person is responsible for their own actions and reactions. However, we are not responsible for the bad things employers to do us, that we don't deserve.

Work permits. Teacher's licenses. Visas. Workloads. Materials. Information. Respect that goes beyond the wai. All of these things are often lacking in Thai TEFL.

Lived in Thailand for 4 years and I've been teaching for 2 years. In that time I've had one day off sick and I've never been late for a class.

Just how many teachers have left a school high and dry without a care for the students, ..., etc? You see what goes around comes around. Schools get shafted too. Two wrongs don't make a right but both can be as bad as each other.

good on ya, mate. My kharma just ran over my dog, or vice versa. .....been teaching for 2 years, not ONE day off sick, never late for class, etc. Three crappy cruddy jobs, lied to, ten month contracts, misinformed, uninformed, etc.

The fact that there are loser teachers out there is almost besides the point. That is no excuse for schools to mistreat teachers.

Long live websites like teflschoolwatch or whatever

Yeah I know the good ones can still get badly treated but the fact is you chose the job.

I have had some shit but mainly from teachers. A teacher trying to steal a contract from me and I was paying him 500 an hour, when the going rate around here is 350. I tried my best to treat him well and look how he treated me in return. I didn’t get in a rant with him, I simply told him if you want the contract go and get it. The company involved didn’t entertain his proposition and said it wasn’t ethical. I kept the contract and all is well
So at the end of the day you just have to accept it and get on with it otherwise you will get bitter and angry with yourself and everyone around you.

Unfortunately Teflwatch.org is doomed to fail. It’s just not viable and once the initial enthusiasm dies the site will. This kind of site only attracts the whingers of this world who want to blame others for their mistakes. They will be the ones who advocate such a site and they will be the ones who will bring it down.

Originally Posted by Unwell

I think it is very easy to appear condescending to someone like ET.

we still running 'quote of the week'?

We still running cunt of the week?

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Originally Posted by enjoy

A teacher trying to steal a contract from me and I was paying him 500 an hour, when the going rate around here is 350.

And how much were the company paying you?
350 an hour for corporate work is criminal. Do you run an agency?

Originally Posted by enjoy

Unfortunately Teflwatch.org is doomed to fail.

Wishful thinking on your part I bet.
I wonder whether we'll see your place on TSW's pages?

enjoy, i nominate you for Hugh Jardon Award for the month of January.

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enjoy, i nominate you for the Hugh Jardon Award for the month of January. Please carry the trophy in your mouth and dont be late for class.

ET wrote
350 an hour for corporate work is criminal. Do you run an agency?


No, I don't run an agency and yes 350 is poor money which is why I paid 500. I was offered a contract to teach in a company but I was already commited. I found another teacher, who appeared to be the right man for the job but unfortunately he got greedy. He came to me and said the company offered him the contract but felt guilty to take it. He said he deserved to be paid 750. I said I cant pay that so I told him to take the contract. Of course he was bluffing so the idiot lost out on 16 hrs a week @ 500 baht. As I said I know other companies pay around 350. I think the teacher was getting a fair deal considering he didnt live that far from the company. Was I so bad or was he a cake?

twatdog, I nominate you for the Quentin Crisp lifetime achievment award. please carry the trophy up your arse where no doubt it will feel at home.