Travel broadens the mind and opens more horizons.. sure.
Yesterday, on a different thread I was criticized for my western views. Now as 95% of ajarners are from western countries, i dont just mean geographically here, how do you feel about having western views.
For me I find it sickening when a foreigner embraces Thai culture too much, as for example the way a ladyboy embraces femininity.
Ok, tolerate thai culture, accept and respect it but please dont start wishing you'd been born a Thai.
Examples, Why the need speak Thai to another native speaker.
Why the need to wear yellow if your school hasn't ordered you to.
Deride everything western.
I love living in Thailand and i love many things about the country. However I am English and proud of it (there i said it). I am proud of my culture and what it gave to the world, of course thereare negative connotations in this. I shall not apologize having a western perspective, it is who and what I am. Indeed, the vast majority of us would not have employment if it wasn't for the fact that our mother tongue and therefore our western culture was in such demand. (i'm aware of the responsibility that western corporations have played in this, as i said there are negativities.)
So basically for all the Thai wanabees, look in the mirror, you will never be a Thai. If you dont know that yourself, the Thai people themselves will always remind you coz they will never ever accept you as an equal. We are visitors and outsiders, you will always be western. So before you criticize people for having a western view, please consider the above.
I think you were mainly criticized for thinking that even rich Thais are jealous at the vast amount of opportunities afforded to you, the only one of which you seem to have taken advantage of, is to come to their country and live here.Originally Posted by munkijism
I hate Westerers who speak Thai to each other personally, would never wish to be born a Thai, and obviously never will become one.
Originally Posted by munkijism
As a mark of respect for the country you've chosen to live in perhaps?
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no Interior Minister of Thailand's son.
i think the phrase is called "going native"
I don't think people really get criticized for having a western view, but for constantly contrasting the negative aspects of living Thailand with the west.Originally Posted by munkijism
What gets up my nose is when westerners continually bleat on in the ilk 'but in **insert western nation**, you can **insert mundane comment**'.
Also, those people that think they've got a god given right to be here, as they've been here doing sod-all for years, and are now all shirty with the new visa regs. But that's not on this forum
Originally Posted by columbia
Bizarre isn't it? What are they thinking?Originally Posted by SageAndOnion
Or would you like to swing on a star?
should everyone in briatain wear the union jackOriginally Posted by columbia
americans don the star spangled banner etc etc
of course not.... tolerance my friend. I can respect Thailand without wearing a yellow shirt
i dunno - trying to practise and learn a new language perhaps?
Originally Posted by SageAndOnion
I hate Westerers who speak Thai to each other personally
Bizarre isn't it? What are they thinking?
how dare they! its much better when farang cannot understand thai!
do foreigners speak spanish in spain? i guess not. french in france - no cant have that!
i think the phrase for that is (excuse my poor attempt at transliteration and using thai langauge - i must be one of those visa running sod-all doing bludger's on the thai economy.)
"farang roo mak, mai dee"
- but i suspect that this phrase and opinion is one mainly held by bar-whores, tourist vendors and Thaksin...... :D
I'm afraid I missed the bit where some brute insisted that Westerners in Thailand should wear yellow as a mark of respect.Originally Posted by munkijism
It's up to the individual mate. Although I personally reckon we should bash anyone who disagrees with any opinion of yours, I mean those pricks are just asking for trouble.....
Just a thought, but if you're in Thailand and surrounded by Thais, it might be a little more fruitful to practice on them rather than someone else who doesn't speak the language properly...Originally Posted by kingwilly
Last edited by blackjack; 11th January 2007 at 10:10. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
My point was why at all, i know it shows respect but to me it seems a little bit too much like brainwashing (for this i will doubtlessly be condemed)Originally Posted by blackjack
Sorry, didnt realise I was coming over that aggressive, you must be a sensitive gentleman. Either that or would you like to join my newly formed SS dividion in Thailand.Originally Posted by blackjack
People might disagree with you (ignorant bastards!), but no-one on this forum has the power to condemn you to death. Well, except ken.....Originally Posted by munkijism
It's true. I promise if we ever end up in bed together and you get "stage fright" I won't even say anything mean. A nice cuddle and meaningful conversation will be enough for me.Originally Posted by munkijism
You tink too mutt. It's an individual choice. Brainwash? come on...I don't even own a single yellow t-shirt and I am Thai. I never look good in yellow.Originally Posted by munkijism
บอนบางกอกดองแสลง เหลือแหล่ แม่เอย
wasnt saying one couldn't, but i find it a bit silly to say that farang shouldn't speak thai to each other.Originally Posted by blackjack
Reg the Wedge and I even wai each other when we meet in the bar to play pool!
You asked the question "Why the need to wear a yellow shirt" (plus it's not a need it's a free choice) not "Why do I have to wear a yellow shirt to respect Thailand"Originally Posted by munkijism
I gave you a possible answer.
lol - i wear a yellow shirt often - i am wearing one now even. This is primarily because i don't like wearing ties every day. When I went to grad school for physics i was quite pleased, knowing that my days of wearing a tie on a daily basis were over. Then I moved to thailand. I can wear a yellow shirt any day of the week at my school, if I choose, and so I do.
...you get what you need.
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