^ now, Y start being more like X... So the corporate world can make more money off you
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I think the purpose of these studies, like many others, is to generate paper that looks good to a tenure committee and apply for grant money.Originally Posted by Intrepid
I can see the value in the application of these types of studies, though. In international business dealings each side assumes that the other thinks as they do, but if they were able to understand that this isn't fundamentally true then perhaps they can find a common ground rather than the narrow strip of their own reasoning on which they stand.
Nowhere is this more evident than in China right now. As thousands of companies try to get a share of what they think will be one of the largest consumer markets on the planet they sometimes hit brick walls in the negotiations and reasoning that they are faced with. They don't understand it and the Chinese don't understand that they don't understand it and it continues in a vicious circle.
Since the Hong Kong handover there have been many companies that thought they were going to be operating in China but eventually gave up in frustration and went home. Much of their frustration can be laid, methinks, in the fact that the two sides actually do think differently - as this study supports.
^ makes sense, except from past experience it will be used to propagate racist attitudes that more than offsets any benefit
Sure. Those street children in Calcutta and sweat-shop workers in Vietnam have a grand ole time.Originally Posted by loveboat
they don't have the stress of presenting to 400 people including government ministers and commissioners.... coming up for me on Jan 30Originally Posted by robitusson
I'm happy to have the thread's title changed...since humor seems to be in short supply.
Suggest a good one and ask LDMA to do it...no sweat from me.
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True. We all have our crosses to bear.
Interesting thread this.
I've just finished reading Why Asians Are Less Creative Than Westerners by Dr Ng Aik Kwang.
As the title suggests he maintains that Asians (chiefly Chinese influenced Asian cultures) are culturally hamstrung when it comes to developing creativity, while Westerners encorage and cultivate it. He presents a pretty good argument which he backs up with plenty of research.
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But not having critical thinking skills isn't a result of cultural influence.Originally Posted by MisterStretch
Bowing your head as you walk between 2 people.
Automatically taking off your shoes when entering a building
Not walking in front of older people
Always accepting something that's offered
most Farang's do these kinda things after being here a while, thus these kinda things are the result of cultural influence...
Culture influences how people think about things, not whether they have or have not got thinking skills...
Saying that a whole race of people lack 'thinking skills', like you have, is completely racist.
^^I've been reading one called "Can Asians Think", written by one of Singapore's shining stars (who is ethnically Indian) and he makes much the same assertion. Fascinating looks into another culture's 'thought processes'.
I completely disagree with you on this one. In a culture where rote teaching is the norm and the students are expected to assimilate the information given by the teacher without questions or explanations shuts down their ability to think critically.Originally Posted by D-Man.
In a culture where one is supposed to accept whatever a higher up says just because they are a higher up and not question that shuts down abilities to think critically.
In many cultures this is what they are taught from the moment they begin learning to talk, interact, etc. It results in a loss of critical thinking skills and in no way is that a rascist sentiment.
If you think I'm making a rascist statement...that's your problem.
Asians less creative than westerners?Originally Posted by robitusson
Not politically correct for sure, but not racist if it is true IMO.Originally Posted by D-Man.
From my experience, asians are not as creative as anglos. Creativity means taking a risk of failure, and failure in an asian culture is unacceptable to the point of making the person suicidal (loss of face). Risk is much more acceptable in anglo culture, and the occasional failure is understood and accepted.
It's not a question of can or can not, it's more a situation of need or don't need as it relates to fostering skills. If you need to speak Chinese you learn to, If you don't need to speak Chinese then you don't learn to. In Chinese culture the society doesn't require it's citizens to use critical thinking so it's not a skill that many Chinese possess. It in no way means that they don't have this potential as proved by Asians who are born in western societies and have learned to use it as it is required by that society.
We must take our actions to their logical conclusion...if the conclusion of any action means the end of the species...then that action must be viewed as antithetical to nature...and anyone performing that action must be considered insane...
Thinking skills are a learned asset. The lack of them here coupled with the appaling state of the education industry is ample evidence enough surely.Originally Posted by D-Man.
Overwhelmingly. By Asians he means primarily countries in the Chinese sphere of influence.Originally Posted by D-Man.
Yup.Originally Posted by Smiley
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Good one. I don't think quoting the obvious is racist.Originally Posted by MisterStretch
Ducks fly better than chickens. There, I got that off my chest.