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    Icon7 Foreign Chicks Find Love

    Real-life Bangkok romances aren’t typical Western cliches
    THAI TAKES
    BY PHILIP GOLINGAI


    The cliche that love eludes farang women in Bangkok is a malicious propaganda by jilted European men who visit the city to have sex with bar girls, according to a writer looking to set the record straight.

    HERE’S a book to read to avoid the cliches of Bangkok. It is titled Bangkok Blondes and it is a collection of short stories and poems about Bangkok by 14 women writers (13 Westerners and one Thai) who are from the Bangkok Women’s Writers Group (BWWG).

    “It is a good book to read before you come to Bangkok as it gives you an idea of real everyday life in Bangkok. And it pays attention to the small things in life,” gushes Anette Pollner, who is the coordinator of BWWG, which was founded in 2000.

    Bangkok Blondes, notes Pollner, is different from 90% of the English-language non-fiction books published in Thailand because it is not testosterone-laden with Bangkok stereotypes such as a farang (Thai for westerner) falling in love with bar girls or a farang ending up in prison.

    These books (My Name Lon, You Like Me? Even Thai Girls Cry. A Farang Affair), which are written by farang male writers, says Pollner, portray aspects (such as prostitution, drugs, gangster and prison) of Bangkok which are completely different from the experience of the majority of the Thai and farang population in the City of Angels.

    “As a resident of this city I feel angry that Bangkok has been misrepresented in a very negative way,” declares the over-40 writer who has been living in the Big Mango, as Bangkok is affectionately known, since 2003.

    When Pollner, who describes herself as a citizen of the world, returns to Europe, she is usually asked, “Isn’t living in Bangkok dangerous?” or “Aren’t there many bar girls in your street?”

    “When I tell them, ‘No, Bangkok is safe’ or ‘No, in my whole district there aren’t any bar girls’, they don’t believe me because they believe the (cliche-laden) books they’ve read,” relates the farang who lives in Ari, a trendy district.

    Pollner’s Bangkok is far removed from Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza, which are Bangkok’s touristy red light area. Her life revolves around the Bangkok Opera (she’s the theatre director), National Museum (she’s a volunteer) and BWWG.

    You get the picture. She breathes a cultured, cosmopolitan life.

    However, she admits that before visiting the Thai capital she thought it was “seedy, full of bar girls, and you have to be careful not to get shot in the street”.

    In 2003, while backpacking around the world, Pollner decided to visit the City of Angels for three nights and found her notions were false.

    “My experience was against the cliche – farang women can’t find love in Bangkok. I met my lover here. And he was not a bar boy but someone I could have met in London,” reveals the writer whose story of that romance The Last of the Great White Lovers is immortalised in Bangkok Blondes.

    The cliche that love eludes farang women in Bangkok, according to Pollner, is a malicious propaganda by men who visit the city to have sex with bar girls because they could not find a partner back in Europe.

    There are Thai-based websites where these men write hate message against Western women who live in Bangkok, she adds.

    Ironically, as the manuscript compiler of Bangkok Blondes, Pollner reinforces the stereotype when she include Jess Tansutat’s short story Butterfly Game, which is about how it could be frustrating for Western women living in Bangkok to find real romantic partner.

    “The choices for decent men are limited here,” writes Jess, who is a Thai.

    “There are several possible factors. Although Thai and Asian men are generally sweet and gentle, they can also be a bit immature and too feminine.

    “The ones who are good-looking, dress well and smart can turn out to be the ‘sorry, lady, I’m gay’ type. (Farang guys) are spoilt. Thailand is just a big playground for them.”

    Refusing to be drawn into a discussion on whether Jess’s story is a cliche, Pollner points out there are other stories in the book where various authors narrate their relations with men in Bangkok.

    For example, Chloe Trindall’s trilogy titled Love Bangkok Style focuses on her romance with a poor Thai boy from a small village in Isaan.

    So what’s real everyday life in Bangkok?

    In Anna Bennetts’ Ghostbusters, it is speaking to the spirit haunting a farang woman’s new apartment.

    Real-life Bangkok romances aren’t typical Western cliches


    bit of a strange one this....suppose we better let our resident chick posters and woman bashers have a go..

    wonder what thai websites she was referring to?

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    Re: Foreign Chicks Find Love

    It's all Venusian-speak to me.....
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    Re: Foreign Chicks Find Love

    Quote Originally Posted by zehner View Post
    The cliche that love eludes farang women in Bangkok is a malicious propaganda by jilted European men who visit the city to have sex with bar girls, according to a writer looking to set the record straight.
    That line had to have been thought up by a western feminist.

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    Re: Foreign Chicks Find Love

    Quote Originally Posted by zehner View Post
    No, in my whole district there aren’t any bar girls
    She can't have looked very hard.
    Perhaps she believes those girls in the karaoke bar are just there to sing and dance.

    Quote Originally Posted by zehner View Post
    You get the picture. She breathes a cultured, cosmopolitan life.
    Obviously she doesn't walk with the common folk which explains her myopia.
    We must not confuse statistical probability with some transcendental and utterly compelling force.

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    I hesitated for quite a while with this post...as it may appear I am being disloyal with Kiwi women...but what the heck...after all they have been leaders in the western feminism battle for well over 100 years.

    Last month the English Rugby team toured New Zealand and caused some publicity with their sexual behaviour...including allegations of rape and a Kiwi girl selling her story of a good night in bed with one of the Poms.

    Over the last 2 weeks Peter Fitzsimons, a Sydney journalist and former Wallaby published these two pieces...which I reckon sum up my typical western feminist stereotype...and indicate I am not alone in my views...

    Last week, TFF ran a burst of that piece from News of the Screws, aka News of the World, about the English woman who gave excruciating details on how and why she switched her sexual favours from one professional soccer player to another and back again. This week, that same newspaper moved a little closer to home when it quoted an Auckland woman, saying she had slept with David Strettle, one of the wingers of the touring English rugby union team: "He pressed all the right buttons and kissed me in all the right places," the journalist reported her as saying. "My England man put rampant rabbits to shame, even though he'd been drinking all night. We did it all night long before he got up at eight to go for physio. He was probably still drunk then."
    Honestly, does that sound the way a Kiwi woman speaks? Listen, I know Kiwi women. I have been with them on Saturday nights while on rugby tours. And that is not the way they speak. In my experience, they are much more prone to say things like, "Thank you, but no", "I would love to, but unfortunately I have to go home and trim my nails," and, a personal favourite, "Not if you were the last man left on earth, and I was told it would save my life …" That my friends, is how Kiwi women speak on Saturday nights to visiting rugby players. At least that is the way they spoke to me …
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/thats-no-mean-feet-fergus/2008/06/27/1214472769835.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2
    Dear TFF,
    Your experience with Kiwi women isn't only applicable to rugby tours to New Zealand. Early in the 1981-82 New Zealand tour by Mosman Cricket Club, the touring party got together at the hotel bar. One of the tourists was taken with a Kiwi woman in another group and decided he wanted to break his "tour duck".
    His first move, an oldie but a goodie, was to ask if he could buy her a drink. Her reply was more deadly than a Dennis Lillee outswinger. She looked him right in the eye and said coldly, "I wouldn't f--k you for practice."
    She then turned on her heel and rejoined her group without batting an eyelid. The bar suddenly went quiet and just as quickly everyone burst into rapturous laughter.
    Sincerely, Simon Crombie.
    Poms are poor-man's prats - Sport - smh.com.au

    I have often thought that Asian men and western women are well matched...as clearly are western men and Asian women.
    Last edited by kiwiling; 7th July 2008 at 05:20. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: Foreign Chicks Find Love

    Interesting book z, might even break my embargo on anything written by falang in Thailand.

    See the misos have come out to play. Nice going fellas, no point letting a stereotype go to waste is there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markle View Post
    Nice going fellas, no point letting a stereotype go to waste is there?
    Now you mention it this was in the Times today:
    Day of reckoning for Anglicans amid split over women bishops

    Day of reckoning for Anglicans amid split over women bishops -Times Online

    My favourite people...bible bashers and feminists head to head

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    Quote Originally Posted by zehner View Post
    When Pollner, who describes herself as a citizen of the world,
    ‘No, in my whole district there aren’t any bar girls’, relates the farang who lives in Ari, a trendy district.
    Her life revolves around the Bangkok Opera (she’s the theatre director), National Museum (she’s a volunteer) and BWWG.
    You get the picture.
    Yup.

    Chloe Trindall’s trilogy titled Love Bangkok Style focuses on her romance with a poor Thai boy from a small village in Isaan.
    Get to the point! Does she send money to his parents?
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    Re: Foreign Chicks Find Love

    Quote Originally Posted by zehner View Post
    She breathes a cultured, cosmopolitan life
    In Bangkok?? Give us a break. Ari 'a trendy district'

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    In Ari, the blokes collecting plastic bottles from trash bins are the middle classes.

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    Good for them. Love does makes the world go round.

    men who visit the city to have sex with bar girls because they could not find a partner back in Europe.
    That must be the only reason to slumber with three 18 year old BGs every friday night. Nothing to do with it being more fun... or them being hotter... or sexier... it's gotta be coz we couldn't get it back home, please, please, please, that's insulting, I'm really really insulted.

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    Re: Foreign Chicks Find Love

    Quote Originally Posted by zehner View Post
    The cliche that love eludes farang women in Bangkok, according to Pollner, is a malicious propaganda by men who visit the city to have sex with bar girls because they could not find a partner back in Europe.
    or maybe it is because Thai guys don't fnd them attractive either.

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    ^ In my best JB voice mate "plenty of Western women doing okay here with no shortage of cock action be it white, yellow or massive black ones actually....you sexist pig".

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    Re: Foreign Chicks Find Love

    no you can't find love at a bar where the people are paid to act like your friend/lover.
    I must be doing something wrong, I fall in love every Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

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