Hi Anna. I have a good work ethic, so showing up on time, ready to put in some work, isn't a problem for me. Hell, I'll even show my pearly whites and blink my blue eyes at the parents while working gate duty.
However, based on your comment, are you suggesting the low pay is based on the quality of teachers available? I would think it's fair to say at least 75% of those on this forum are quality teachers, based on them taking enough interest in their career to converse with others in their profession about ways to improve (this forum just isn't a BSing session, but rather has some excellent advice for those in the TEFL industry). So then, if you are indeed suggesting the low pay is a reflection of the low quality of teacher working in the TEFL profession in Thailand, then I wonder what the percentage of TEFL teachers are (active) members of this forum.
You've answered some of your own questions really, Hollywood.
I can't extrapolate my own limited experience to encompass the whole of Thailand, its schools, their hiring practices and the wages they are prepared to pay. But I have a pretty fair idea of how it works in my part of the country.
Walking into a high-ish paying job is perhaps difficult because any new teacher is an unknown quantity. Perhaps after a year the money will go up. And the year after that. It's a 2-way street after all, and schools have as many 'horror' stories about falangs as we do about schools.
Somebody said, or inferred, above that anything is possible - of course it is. Of course. You seem to have your head screwed on. You'll work it out.
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"Take this, brother; may it serve you well."
Thanks Anna. I understand your point more clearly now. Starting salaries at THB 30k are well known because they're advertised, however we don't know what a teacher in his/her second or third year teaching at a school is making. Thus, it's quite possible (probable?) quality teachers are making a decent wage after proving their worth. Don't tell me if I'm wrong about that...give me something to cling to.
Enjoy your tea.
However, I would like to make a few points based on some of the previous posts. I personally would never expect to come out to Thailand and set myself up for the rest of my life teaching. The rate of pay and current state of the Thai education system does not have the infrastructure to enable Thai teachers, never mind Western teachers, to be able to do this. Thats why I have chosen to wait until I am financially 'sound' before even considering relocation to what is still an underdeveloped country. I love Thailand but realise to fully enjoy and to have a reasonable lifestyle one has to see it for what it really is. I do appreciate that what is comfortable for one person is not always the case for others.
Its not only Thailand where the economy is 'driving' down wages. Like many in the UK my wage has fallen while inflation and trebled over the last few years. I know this is heartbreaking for those wanting to live the 'dream' in Thailand but its reality. Another point to consider is that 30,000 Baht a month is three times more than most Thai teachers earn. Whether this is right or wrong how would we feel if we were teaching in our own country and a foreign teacher was working the same hours and getting paid three times more than we were.
Hope I have not offended anyone but just wanted to raise these few points.
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Some good points there, Andy.
I'll say no more.
I had to fly home for for a bereavement two years ago. Nothing was too much trouble for the school. They can be demanding, but they are fair.
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Andy...you actually quoted me there rather than Thaitanium. You make good points. I do realize it can be a long shot, but I'll give it my best. Who knows, maybe I can make it work, maybe I can't, but at least I won't go broke trying. Best of luck to you with setting up your own program!
Anna...Earl Grey? Sounds as though you work for a great school. If it's in Issan, clue me in! 555 Seriously though, I was unaware of the bonuses, free flights home every year, and other perks. It seems I read so much about the actual amount of the paycheck, but see very little mentioned about the extras. Wonder why that is. It reminds me of the pay when I was in the military. While the actual pay was on the low side, when you figure in free housing, free food, various extra allowances (hazardous duty pay, overseas pay, tax free, etc), and paid vacations, it evened things out.
Anna...aaaah, those "tiny little tea leaves." Thankfully, I will indeed have plenty of time when I get there. I arrive in October and am not expecting to work until August...lots and lots of time. While I'd prefer Ubon, I'm open to other cities, but am hesitant to work outside of Issan (like the food, people, and lifestyle there too much, although I haven't experienced the north yet...will do that when back in the LOS in a few weeks). Oh...and this isn't my thread...forget who posted it. I've just me monopolizing it, I guess. 555
Tao...best of luck then!
That should read "I've just been*...wonder why the Edit Post option isn't working for me. Must be my crappy Internet...oh well. Oh-Dark-Thirty is going to arrive fast, so I suppose it's time to call it a night anyway.
Okay - goodnight. Don't be a stranger.
This is it... The apocalypse.
Proving your worth may just mean not getting the boot. Countrywide, Thailand doesn't run on the merit system. It's not its culture.
"Goddamn it Lord, bless oh ye this bacon..."
George Liquor American
I've said it before - Thailand is fast heading towards being Asia's top TEFL gap-year destination. Come and have a year or two in the sun, enjoy yourself and then go back to the real world. Oh and you'll even get paid 30K a month as well.