Asian financial Predictions: End of the World?

**kiwiling** · 2nd January 2012 14:46

Originally Posted by zeusbheld

this is a problem for animals, not plants.

animals destroy plants...one way or another...so risk their oxygen supply...overpopulation will destroy more plants...human emissions of CO2 require more plants to turn it into oxygen...it doesn't add up...and the problems are starting in the ocean...just look at coral reefs

**zeusbheld** · 2nd January 2012 14:56

^
right, but you framed this as a problem for all life on Earth, and plants in particular. seems to me if animals follow this route--H. sapiens sapiens in particular--then most of the animals become extinct, and the plants 'win'. sure, lots of plant species will become extinct, but more will evolve to fill the empty niches. in the long run, they'll produce more oxygen, and whatever animals are left will evolve to fill the vacant niches. massive dying offs have happened a few times since the advent of life; life on Earth will be fine. it's a question of whether or not we'll be part of it, and for how long.

**kiwiling** · 2nd January 2012 15:29

Originally Posted by zeusbheld

life on Earth will be fine. it's a question of whether or not we'll be part of it, and for how long.

Sherlock will be proud of you...and unless you have kids...or are going to drop dead in the next 10 years...your hypothesis is no problem

**zeusbheld** · 2nd January 2012 21:12

Originally Posted by kiwiling

Sherlock will be proud of you...and unless you have kids...or are going to drop dead in the next 10 years...your hypothesis is no problem

so what the fuck are your garbled ramblings about if you already agree with what i said a dozen or more posts ago??? you're confessing that you're being a complete asshole for the sheer joy of it then? damn shame, most trolls show a higher level of craft than that.

**kiwiling** · 3rd January 2012 06:05

Originally Posted by zeusbheld

you already agree with what i said a dozen or more posts ago

No I don't

**zeusbheld** · 3rd January 2012 08:53

Originally Posted by kiwiling

No I don't

unless you're trying for a trollish version of Monty Python's 'argument clinic' sketch it's about time you pulled your head out of your ass and said what exactly you're disagreeing with then, because you did say this:

your hypothesis is no problem

you're doing an excellent job convincing me that you have absolutely no idea what you're saying. or anyone else is saying.

time to come clean and be clear about what you're claiming. failure to do so will be taken as a tacit admission that you're either trolling or senile.

**cluezo** · 4th January 2012 08:40

Originally Posted by ltqbx

So, please stop the pessimism and hope in the future

You want us to stop the pessimism and hope in the future?

**zeusbheld** · 4th January 2012 08:43

Originally Posted by cluezo

You want us to stop the pessimism and hope in the future?

it's working. i feel nothing already.

**cluezo** · 4th January 2012 08:56

**jkd** · 5th January 2012 23:13

Originally Posted by tomcat

The Mayans were wrong. The world won’t end in 2012,

I've actually worked with a few mayans (I do a lot of work with indigenous people) and they do get annoyed at this interpretation of the end of their long count implying the end of the world. it's more like the odometer rolling over.
btw, it's funny how much verbiage goes into describing growing wealth and income disparities and how little into analyzing why. the funny thing is they're much worse now than before we built all these big government programs in the 60s and 70s. my theory is that all that stuff was debt financed and so the interest share of income has grown and caused all these problems.

**zeusbheld** · 6th January 2012 05:59

Originally Posted by jkd

I've actually worked with a few mayans (I do a lot of work with indigenous people) and they do get annoyed at this interpretation of the end of their long count implying the end of the world.

can't blame 'em, i get annoyed and i'm not even Mayan.

**Cthulhu** · 6th January 2012 06:35

Well, I'm Mayan - and I sure am annoyed about it.

**jonny danger** · 6th January 2012 07:15

**trevsfriendbruce** · 6th January 2012 15:40

Some experts think that by 2013 the US will have:

50% unemployment
90% stockmarket collapse
100% annual inflation

because the government and corporations will have to borrow at high rates, and tax more or cut wages to do it

---Update---

Originally Posted by jkd

it's more like the odometer rolling over

That would be the obvious conclusion...but nowhere near exciting as the alternative