What a beautiful way to eat up all of your monthly data allotment. I can't think of a reason to ever want my photos to sync automatically. For all other purposes, free apps and services like dropbox takes no more hassle and setup than setting up icloud and work just as well for practical purposes. For other things like calendar, email, and contacts, google's seemless integration with gmail is far superior on Android. Since everyone these days uses gmail, it works out perfectly.Originally Posted by Cthulhu
Speaking of convenience, I love the simple convenience of being able to copy and paste directly to my device without having to go through 3rd party apps and conversion programs. I also love how my device can open all the major video formats without any hassle or conversion. So say I'm about to walk out the door on my way to the airport and realize it would be nice to have a few episodes of House or Breaking Bad with me on my trip. I plug it in, and copy a few episodes ever in a minute or two and am done. No conversion, no itunes bs, just pure convenience that iphone users can only dream of.
That's weird, since I do the exact same thing on my iPad and iPhone. Wanna carry a couple of episodes of Supernatural with me? In AVI or MKV format? Drag 'em over, and I'm done.
As for "I can't think of a reason to ever want my photos to sync automatically" - well, how convenient that you can turn that off, then, eh? I prefer to not just have photos sync'd between my devices, but also to have them automatically sync'd to my iPhoto on my desktop and laptop, not to mention the last 1,000 photos are always kept in iCloud. So if iPhone or iPad are lost or stolen, at least all the important pictures are safe. Automatically.
Aside from the automatic backups of each device to iCloud - Apple really, really got the way to do the cloud spt on right with iCloud. Sure, you can do the same thing on the Google devices - after downloading a dozen tools, hoping you configure them right, and a lot more manual interaction. Of course, that's a great way to keep you on your toes and to keep you from getting rusty.
Glad you enjoy your Android device, Baksiidaa.
---Update---
Theanimaster - the only way removing apps will make your device faster, is if you had so many there was no more free space for any swap file to do its job. Even that's unlikely as iOS automatically reserves that space.
There is no "keeping track of preference files" or any such overhead, which might be why you aren't noticing any performance improvements. Still, spring cleaning and getting rid of apps you don't need or use is always a good idea.
Convenient that you consider extra apps to do something a burden for one thing but are willing to overlook it when it doesn't fit with your argument. Using extra apps to convert video files every time you want to copy something over isn't the same as copying and pasting.
I would NEVER want to turn on the automatic feature so try explaining how it is easier than with dropbox. Both require minimal setup and effort. You are desperately trying to find reasons to hate on Android and it's really pathetic.As for "I can't think of a reason to ever want my photos to sync automatically" - well, how convenient that you can turn that off, then, eh? I prefer to not just have photos sync'd between my devices, but also to have them automatically sync'd to my iPhoto on my desktop and laptop, not to mention the last 1,000 photos are always kept in iCloud. So if iPhone or iPad are lost or stolen, at least all the important pictures are safe. Automatically.
What syncing are you referring to? You've given syncing photos as an example. What else would I want to sync that can't be done with google's seamless integration with gmail and dropbox? Dozens of tools? Hoping to configure them right? Where do you come up with these fantasies anyway? There's nothing difficult or challenging about using android devices.Aside from the automatic backups of each device to iCloud - Apple really, really got the way to do the cloud spt on right with iCloud. Sure, you can do the same thing on the Google devices - after downloading a dozen tools, hoping you configure them right, and a lot more manual interaction. Of course, that's a great way to keep you on your toes and to keep you from getting rusty.
I'm not using any "extra apps" to "convert" anything. I either drag the AVI files over to my iPad, connected to iTunes over USB or WiFi, or access a folder on my server that contains the same files. There's no conversion - Azul (or a variety of other multi-format playback apps) plays the AVI video straight.
You're so desperately trying to build an adversarial relationship - seriously, is this the only way for you define yourself, and to gain some imaginary advantage?
Just because *you* would never want to turn on an automatic feature, doesn't make it useless - and it's clear that you don't even know how it works, before poo-poo'ing it. This is no better than that other guy (your sidekick, who no longer posts - forgot his name) claiming that any feature pointed out to him "is not necessary". Backup - "useless"; screenshots - "no one needs that"; etc... That's not really a winning position, you should realize that.
DropBox is a decent tool, and many iOS apps provide DropBox integration as well, though with Apple having made iCloud so bloody easy for a developer to add, and offering the kind of synching features that aren't as easy with DropBox, iCloud is proving to be a winner (particularly with it having desktop support soon). DropBox is great for cross-platform support, though. Not knocking it.
For starters, it also syncs my documents across devices (well, for apps that support iCloud - like Pages, Numbers, most ToDo lists); it now syncs app configuration settings; aside from the also built-in syncing of calendars, Contacts, reminders, bookmarks, my music library, and of course full backups of my devices... and developers are coming up with ever newer ways to use and exploit iCloud as a resource.
With Google, it's a different resource for each bit of syncing - and that still doesn't provide a comprehensive backup of the entire device.
I have no doubt that now that Google has released their GoogleCloud service, they will attempt to copy a lot of that as well, despite early reviews not really painting a pretty picture - but I'm sure in due time Google can get it right, as soon as they get rid of Andy Rubin.
To you (maybe, as you consider yourself technically proficient), but the average person prefers a solution that is easy, out of the box, and that looks out for their data, safety, and privacy.
I have been very disappointed in Google on all of these criteria.
I'm glad it's working out for you, and that your Android device is all that you hoped it would be.
Sounds like extra 3rd party apps in addition to having to install itunes. Talk about inconvenient. Once again, you try to hold a double standard. Android devices can do it out of the box. With Android you can also walk up and connect to any computer and copy any content without installing a single application on either device.
I was messing with ics today and stumbled on this:
Who knew?
Google syncs docs as well and has done so for longer than apple has. Apple is very late to the cloud game so if we want to talk of copying then it was apple who followed Google and Microsoft's lead with the cloud.
Looks like it does. Android phones typically do far more out of the box than iphones, chief.
I assume since you just discovered automatic photo synching on ICS, that you will now sing it's praises and how indispensable it is. Right?
Naw, could still care less about it and if I ever did use it, I'd set it to wifi only. This was only to prove to you that it exists so you'd shut up about one little feature which you perceived made ios devices superior.
See, the problem is that you think it's all about individual features and specs that you think are responsible for "superiority", instead of how the whole system works, and the company that stands behind it.
Ah, good to see the good ol' days back.
Let me just put in my own thoughts though: baksiidaa's comment on iCloud eating up your data plan almost got me. I had completely forgotten that photos ONLY upload when you're connected to a wifi network! In this case, it WON'T eat up your bandwidth. But thanks for making me double-check!
iCloud sync is still far from perfect, but in particular, the Photostream thingy is pretty good - AND - pretty convenient! Good to see Android stealing from iOS again : P Though let's be honest -- they both steal from each other.
Apple ~is~ slow at implementing things, but when they do, they usually do a good job (keeping in mind that iCloud still hasn't reached my expectations yet). One thing I'd like to see implemented -- SELECTIVE APP BACKUPS. The reason being you can be backing up and "auto-backing up" all the time and then SOMEWHERE along the line, one shitty app's preferences gets messed up and that shitty messed up preference is conveniently backed up to every future backup. I only recently fixed this problem -- BY JAILBREAKING and using a nifty JB app to selectively backup my app data so that I can wipe the iPhone clean -- and restore the app data.
And yes, it was an iPhone preference that was messed up, not the app data. Of all things.
But again, as it is, the only way you can hope to get back all those hours of saved games is a.) if you restore to a backup (and this backup may be 'compromised' by the problem above) and b.) if that game stores it's own data in the iCloud (well guess what? Out of more than a hundred games, only THREE of my games do this)!
But hey, with all the bugs Apple has to fix, I wouldn't dream of going to Android ~at this moment~. Software and UI problems aside, I've yet to see (or rather ~feel~) an Android device that is as responsive and fluid as the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch. I wonder if this is what Samsung is trying to claim with its upcoming Galaxy III? The whole "natural touch" experience?
But then again, this is a thread about the NEW IPAD~!!!!!
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Chitika: iPad Accounts for Nearly 95 Percent of Tablet Web Traffic
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Android is winn… ah, forget it.Based off of impressions across our network, the iPad accounted for 94.64% of all tablet based traffic. This is impressive in and of itself but to put this number into perspective, the next closest competitor, the Samsung Galaxy tablet, boasts a lack luster market share of 1.22%. Coming in last, in respect to traffic share, was the Barnes and Noble Nook with a meager 0.53% traffic share. In defense of the Nook, it is used primarily as an e-reader, with the capabilities of a tablet.
Lets not forget that other traffic measurements, like usage of wifi hotspots at airports, or in-flight, or at hotels sees iOS (not just tablets) with massive leads of 80% and above.
Maybe all those massive market share Android users simply don't use wifi hotspots, don't travel, or dot surf the web ... or maybe all those devices have a hard time achieving all of that sitting on top of shelves gathering dust.
Have you even used ICS on a device like the S2, One X, or other high end phone? The experience is fluid and amazing. As far as how the whole system works and the company that stands behind it, both Google and Samsung have made massive strides in this department. Unfortunately, you are still stuck in the mindset of your original GS1 with the lag bug and running Android 2.1. Should I whip out an original iphone and assume that all subsequent apple devices are going to be the same laggy piece of shit that the original iphone was? Open your eyes.
My brother would have loved to -- unfortunately, he refuses to 'root' his phone and apparently ICS hasn't been released to him, yet.
But that was a few weeks ago. Perhaps he has it on his phone now?
The original iPhone, first gen, laggy? Oh, you're funny when you make stuff up, as usual when you get defensive.
How long have you had ICS on your S2? Samsung issue? Lucky.
He's missing so much potential. Kind of like an iphone without jailbreak, except even more so because there are same dang good custom roms out there. I just loaded Resurrection remix ics on mine and it is not only faster than the stock rom (though the original wasn't slow by any means) but I get better battery life as well. As I'm sure you already know, custom roms typically give you a lot more flexibility with customizing your interface options too thus allowing you to do everything faster.
What phone is he using? GS2 international version already has ICS but the US version always takes a bit longer.
Since you never even used an iphone till the 4 came out, I'll assume you just made this comment in ignorance. As someone who used the 3G for about a year and a half I can confirm that before the 3GS, iphones were horribly slow and it got really bad after only a couple months of use. Even a lot of 3GS's suffered this same fate after a few months. I'd click on the messages icon and it would literally take 8-10 seconds for my list of sms's to come up. It wasn't just messages either. It got even worse with ios4.
I've been using different builds over the last month or so just to see what I like. The one I'm using now is my favorite so far so I'll probably stick with it for awhile. The stock ics rom for the GS2 is pretty good too.
Last edited by baksiidaa; 5th May 2012 at 20:38.
OK, so your GS2 is really only fast and lacking lag when you replace the entire factory supplied ROM with a hacked ROM from an XDA developer.
Well, that makes sense, as I've found the same with my original Galaxy S, which required a few hacks to fix the hopelessly bungled ROM Samsung provided. This didn't change with the next Galaxy revision either, as it also continued to include the incorrect file system that crippled the original Galaxy S.
I have no reason to believe that Samsung fixed this with the S3 - the only reason why you claim it to be 'pretty good' and 'no lag' is because Samsung threw faster hardware at the initial problem.
As good as Samsung's hardware engineers are (and they are good engineers), so are their software engineers shitty.
Unlike you, I don't live in isolation, and I have friends that are still using their first generation iPhones - far from laggy (and since you never used or seen a first generation iPhone, your claims are just ignorant as you claim mine to be).Since you never even used an iphone till the 4 came out, I'll assume you just made this comment in ignorance.
The issues with *initial* lag issues on iPhone 3G under iOS 4 have been well documented, just as subsequent releases of iOS 4 fixed the lag (unlike Samsung, which never released a fix), and an iPhone 3G running iOS 4.2.1 now runs with the same responsiveness as later models... but I understand why you prefer to not mention those little details... after all, Galaxy S1 and Galaxy S2 owners are still waiting for fixes from Samsung that will never materialize...
Funny how you ignore the 95% usage figures favoring the iPad, and Galaxy Tablets' "massive" 1.22% usage share (this is, after all, a tablet thread).
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